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>On Monday, Reddit — a site that for years was considered one of the internet’s dirtiest sludge pits How sheltered is the NYT tech columnist if he thinks Reddi

>On Monday, Reddit — a site that for years was considered one of the internet’s dirtiest sludge pits How sheltered is the NYT tech columnist if he thinks Reddit is one of the internet's dirtiest sludge pits? Daily Stormer? Gab? Voat? Various Chans?

barbacoa 6y ago
The internet is slowly splitting in two. One internet of meticulous curated, corporate approved, advertising safe content. Another full of unsavory parts of unfiltered human expression -- torrents, porn, racism, hate. Not sure which one is more dystopian.
- baggy_trough 6y ago
  The problem is the hate is in both places; it's just that the first's hate is in alignment with the morality of the educated elite.
- kilo_bravo_3 6y ago
  I enjoy Times Square. I remember Times Square before it was "disneyfied". Everyone bemoaning the loss of the "real and gritty" Times Square is either a: * hypocrite, * amnesiac, and/or * idiot The "real and raw" parts of the internet are only enjoyed by people whose lives are so pathetic that they have to fill the emptiness with conflict and bigotry. Prohibiting hate speech against minorities, homosexuals, and transexuals (and for some reason it is always transexuals) is not "corporate approved" it is basic human decency. If advertisers dropping out is a necessary catalyst to spur the faux-libertarian techbros into action, so be it. Like with codes of conduct in open source communities, the bigots can't stand when they are told that they have to act like human beings despite the fact that they are on the internet and think that the rules should be different and self-righteous (but ultimately futile) bitching will always accompany the implementation of standards on the internet that are already used in every other facet of life.
  - ta17711771 6y ago
    > The "real and raw" parts of the internet are only enjoyed by people whose lives are so pathetic that they have to fill the emptiness with conflict and bigotry. Oh, and researchers. You know, security researchers. And conspiracy researchers. Sometimes both.
  - schwartzworld 6y ago
    > Prohibiting hate speech against minorities, homosexuals, and transexuals (and for some reason it is always transexuals) is not "corporate approved" it is basic human decency. It's worth mentioning that /r/Chapotraphouse got banned as well, and it was one of the most trans-positive spaces on reddit.
  - Chris2048 6y ago
    > The "real and raw" parts of the internet are only enjoyed by people whose lives are so pathetic that they have to fill the emptiness with conflict and bigotry. So if I want real news instead of the disneyfied version, it's because I'm an empty bigot? And if I don't accept your judgement on what constitutes "hate speech", It because I'm <insert insult here>? > Like with codes of conduct in open source communities, the bigots.. So what's you position on Opalgate?
- JungleGymSam 6y ago
  Ahh yes. Good old "hate": It can be applied to anyone on the outs with the good-ones.
cptnapalm 6y ago
Having visited r/politics and r/news, I'd actually agree with that characterization.

barbacoa 6y ago

The internet is slowly splitting in two. One internet of meticulous curated, corporate approved, advertising safe content. Another full of unsavory parts of unfiltered human expression -- torrents, porn, racism, hate. Not sure which one is more dystopian.

baggy_trough 6y ago
The problem is the hate is in both places; it's just that the first's hate is in alignment with the morality of the educated elite.
kilo_bravo_3 6y ago
I enjoy Times Square. I remember Times Square before it was "disneyfied". Everyone bemoaning the loss of the "real and gritty" Times Square is either a: * hypocrite, * amnesiac, and/or * idiot The "real and raw" parts of the internet are only enjoyed by people whose lives are so pathetic that they have to fill the emptiness with conflict and bigotry. Prohibiting hate speech against minorities, homosexuals, and transexuals (and for some reason it is always transexuals) is not "corporate approved" it is basic human decency. If advertisers dropping out is a necessary catalyst to spur the faux-libertarian techbros into action, so be it. Like with codes of conduct in open source communities, the bigots can't stand when they are told that they have to act like human beings despite the fact that they are on the internet and think that the rules should be different and self-righteous (but ultimately futile) bitching will always accompany the implementation of standards on the internet that are already used in every other facet of life.
- ta17711771 6y ago
  > The "real and raw" parts of the internet are only enjoyed by people whose lives are so pathetic that they have to fill the emptiness with conflict and bigotry. Oh, and researchers. You know, security researchers. And conspiracy researchers. Sometimes both.
- schwartzworld 6y ago
  > Prohibiting hate speech against minorities, homosexuals, and transexuals (and for some reason it is always transexuals) is not "corporate approved" it is basic human decency. It's worth mentioning that /r/Chapotraphouse got banned as well, and it was one of the most trans-positive spaces on reddit.
- Chris2048 6y ago
  > The "real and raw" parts of the internet are only enjoyed by people whose lives are so pathetic that they have to fill the emptiness with conflict and bigotry. So if I want real news instead of the disneyfied version, it's because I'm an empty bigot? And if I don't accept your judgement on what constitutes "hate speech", It because I'm <insert insult here>? > Like with codes of conduct in open source communities, the bigots.. So what's you position on Opalgate?
JungleGymSam 6y ago
Ahh yes. Good old "hate": It can be applied to anyone on the outs with the good-ones.

cptnapalm 6y ago

Having visited r/politics and r/news, I'd actually agree with that characterization.