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This is nice and all, but bigger issue is when will Android phones reach Android 11? Has fragmentation gotten better? Do most phone manufacturers support upgrad

This is nice and all, but bigger issue is when will Android phones reach Android 11? Has fragmentation gotten better? Do most phone manufacturers support upgrading to major versions of Android (it does not seem to be in their interest)?

izacus 6y ago
It's really no secret after all these years that you need to buy a Google phone to get best support for their OS, just like you need to buy an Apple hardware to get support for their OS.
- antpls 6y ago
  I bought a Nokia 6.1 around 2 years ago, which is part of the Android One program and it worked well! Had all security monthly updates, the system is clean and stable, updated to major versions of Android smoothly without any issue. If I can, I will buy another Android One phone. There is an horror story about an Android One Xiaomi phone, but Nokia delivered the promise with the 6.1, according to my experience
  - m45t3r 6y ago
    > There is an horror story about an Android One Xiaomi phone Which one? I had a Xiaomi Mi A1 and nowadays I have a A2, both are fine Android One phones that still receives updates (in the case of A1, only security ones, but the A2 received a Android 10 update). Yeah, Xiaomi may take a while to update their phones in Android One program, but otherwise it is fine.
    - antpls 6y ago
      It was the A3 : https://www.themobileindian.com/news/xiaomi-rolls-out-android-10-update-for-mi-a3-for-the-fourth-time-30766 https://www.themobileindian.com/news/xiaomi-rolls-out-androi... They had to stop 3 or 4 times the Android 10 deployment because of bugs and issues found by users after updating on their phones. Good to know that it was an isolated case
- zanny 6y ago
  Google still has shorter support periods than Lineage manages. The Nexus 6 was dropped by Google at Android 7 but you can install Lineage 17.1 (10.0) on it today. Same with some really old devices like the Galaxy Note 3 or S4. And even older devices got supported up to Android 9 like the S3 or Nexus 5. The real secret is to buy one of the devices the real core Lineage developers maintain because they will keep those security patches and major release updates coming to you for free that these billion dollar corporations couldn't be bothered to do. If the entire Android ecosystem wasn't a disgusting exploitation machine meant to produce more rare earth metal waste than naval warfare by forcibly obsoleting devices every 2 years everyone would be better off. Every company could be sponsoring free software devs to support their phones in something like Lineage in perpetuity while paying a fraction what they do for their large internal dev teams to do it. But the perverse incentives mean they don't want to update phones, which also means making it hard to support their device in a real operating system like Lineage is in their interest.
  - izacus 6y ago
    The problem is that Lineage does nothing to update the device driver stack where most security issues are found. Bumping up the Android OS version doesn't make you more secure in that respect.
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izacus 6y ago

It's really no secret after all these years that you need to buy a Google phone to get best support for their OS, just like you need to buy an Apple hardware to get support for their OS.

antpls 6y ago
I bought a Nokia 6.1 around 2 years ago, which is part of the Android One program and it worked well! Had all security monthly updates, the system is clean and stable, updated to major versions of Android smoothly without any issue. If I can, I will buy another Android One phone. There is an horror story about an Android One Xiaomi phone, but Nokia delivered the promise with the 6.1, according to my experience
- m45t3r 6y ago
  > There is an horror story about an Android One Xiaomi phone Which one? I had a Xiaomi Mi A1 and nowadays I have a A2, both are fine Android One phones that still receives updates (in the case of A1, only security ones, but the A2 received a Android 10 update). Yeah, Xiaomi may take a while to update their phones in Android One program, but otherwise it is fine.
  - antpls 6y ago
    It was the A3 : https://www.themobileindian.com/news/xiaomi-rolls-out-android-10-update-for-mi-a3-for-the-fourth-time-30766 https://www.themobileindian.com/news/xiaomi-rolls-out-androi... They had to stop 3 or 4 times the Android 10 deployment because of bugs and issues found by users after updating on their phones. Good to know that it was an isolated case
zanny 6y ago
Google still has shorter support periods than Lineage manages. The Nexus 6 was dropped by Google at Android 7 but you can install Lineage 17.1 (10.0) on it today. Same with some really old devices like the Galaxy Note 3 or S4. And even older devices got supported up to Android 9 like the S3 or Nexus 5. The real secret is to buy one of the devices the real core Lineage developers maintain because they will keep those security patches and major release updates coming to you for free that these billion dollar corporations couldn't be bothered to do. If the entire Android ecosystem wasn't a disgusting exploitation machine meant to produce more rare earth metal waste than naval warfare by forcibly obsoleting devices every 2 years everyone would be better off. Every company could be sponsoring free software devs to support their phones in something like Lineage in perpetuity while paying a fraction what they do for their large internal dev teams to do it. But the perverse incentives mean they don't want to update phones, which also means making it hard to support their device in a real operating system like Lineage is in their interest.
- izacus 6y ago
  The problem is that Lineage does nothing to update the device driver stack where most security issues are found. Bumping up the Android OS version doesn't make you more secure in that respect.

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