Thanks for explaining. I think I understand better. Interesting. At the same time I don't think we should instrumentalize human rights -- human rights are impo

Thanks for explaining. I think I understand better. Interesting. At the same time I don't think we should instrumentalize human rights -- human rights are important because their human rights, not because of their potential to increase productivity. And I'm not saying you're saying anything like that at all -- moreso, I'm responding to the logical implications of the discussion : ). The importance and value is of human rights is unrelated to their positive or negative impact on productivity. Some people might like to throw in a "what if" at this point about limited resources, etc. And sometimes in life (like in medical triage situations) people have to make difficult or terrible decisions, but if we believe in human life having an inherent value then that shouldn't be the basis or starting point of our moral reasoning.