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Is there any specific thing that makes it ugly? I'm curious because I don't see the ugliness. Since I use Firefox 99% of the time, I just opened Chrome and Edg

Is there any specific thing that makes it ugly? I'm curious because I don't see the ugliness. Since I use Firefox 99% of the time, I just opened Chrome and Edge to check out their address bars. All three are extremely similar. In Chrome and Edge the borders are more rounded, while Firefox opts for a more square look. All three feature a "popup" effect that makes the bar slightly bigger when interacting with it: in Firefox this effect activates when clicking the bar, while the other two enlarge when inputting data.

zozbot234 6y ago
It uses a non-native look for no good reason, and the "popup" thing obscures other parts of the browser UI.
- ebg13 6y ago
  78 has checkboxes to disable the suggestions popup under the privacy/security preferences.
- deathanatos 6y ago
  I've seen numerous people discuss this, so I can only presume that there is some itch here, but I'm not getting it. Hasn't the location bar been non-native since pretty much forever, since it has to display icons and colors and all sorts of other stuff that I think most native drop down widgets just won't? As for obscuring other parts of the UI … such as? (That it wasn't since the dawn of time; I mean, it drops down and obscures part of the browser window, sure? But it's done that since the idea of having it autocomplete was first added.) The only recent change seems to be that it swells up by a few pixels when you focus it. (I'm not a fan, but it honestly doesn't seem to matter much. It has started to not show the carat, and that is definitely annoying, and I'd agree more with a native widget argument there, I just don't think one exists.)
  - wtallis 6y ago
    > As for obscuring other parts of the UI … such as? Bookmarks toolbar, for one. Open a new blank tab, the URLbar has focus by default and is now partially obscuring the bookmarks right at the moment you're most likely to use them.
    - deathanatos 6y ago
      Curious. So, this is what I see: https://imgur.com/a/IJBlT4q https://imgur.com/a/IJBlT4q The actual dropdown doesn't happen on a new tab. (It will if I click on the bar or start typing, though.) I'll admit, I did not think of the bookmarks bar. (I don't use it, myself.) Thanks, too, for responding.
msclrhd 6y ago
I don't like the behaviour in Chrome or Slack either. I haven't tried the new Edge (Edgeium) -- the Trident/IE derived Edge only expands downward. 1. It is inconsistent with the behaviour of every other control, including other combobox/search/dropdown UI elements. The web search element on the new page/tab for both Firefox and Chrome only expand downward to show the results. (The one on Chrome adjusts the border radius slightly, but that is more to do with the way the border radius is calculated.) 2. I personally find it distracting, especially as it is moving in two directions at once. -- I don't like animated elements in the Windows start menu and YouTube's latest post section even more for the same reason (I notice the movement in the corner of my eye, then get distracted as it is drawing attention away from what I am doing). 3. It can happen when not user initiated, e.g. when switching to an already open tab where the focus then goes to the address bar. This further adds to the distracting "look at me!" nature of the new design, where you have to explicitly click away to get rid of. Couple that with reddit's behaviour of clicking outside a post navigating to the channels page and you have some fun times! 4. The dropdown of frequently visited pages can no longer be opened by the mouse only. You need to click on the address bar and then press the down arrow key.
quacker 6y ago
"in Firefox this effect activates when clicking the bar, while the other two enlarge when inputting data." This difference is why Firefox receives mores complaints. When opening a new tab in Firefox, the address bar is automatically focused. This actually makes the address bar larger than the bounds of the encapsulating toolbar. This combined with the drop shadows helps to partially obscure adjacent toolbar(s), like the bookmarks toolbar.
Yizahi 6y ago
It hijacks focus at new tab open. It has ugly looking shadow when focused over bookmark bar. It removed "arrow down" button. It replaced history for static top sites in the drop down. It enlarges text font on focus making it harder to quickly select parts. And the last but not least - they had months of beta testing and then still enforced popout animation with ability to disable it, despite negative feedback of multiple users. PS: I'm not disabling it on principle for now just to see like some people say if get used to it. So far it still annoys me after weeks of usage. It is just bad design and bad decision and FF team can't accept own mistakes, like small children.

zozbot234 6y ago

It uses a non-native look for no good reason, and the "popup" thing obscures other parts of the browser UI.

ebg13 6y ago
78 has checkboxes to disable the suggestions popup under the privacy/security preferences.
deathanatos 6y ago
I've seen numerous people discuss this, so I can only presume that there is some itch here, but I'm not getting it. Hasn't the location bar been non-native since pretty much forever, since it has to display icons and colors and all sorts of other stuff that I think most native drop down widgets just won't? As for obscuring other parts of the UI … such as? (That it wasn't since the dawn of time; I mean, it drops down and obscures part of the browser window, sure? But it's done that since the idea of having it autocomplete was first added.) The only recent change seems to be that it swells up by a few pixels when you focus it. (I'm not a fan, but it honestly doesn't seem to matter much. It has started to not show the carat, and that is definitely annoying, and I'd agree more with a native widget argument there, I just don't think one exists.)
- wtallis 6y ago
  > As for obscuring other parts of the UI … such as? Bookmarks toolbar, for one. Open a new blank tab, the URLbar has focus by default and is now partially obscuring the bookmarks right at the moment you're most likely to use them.
  - deathanatos 6y ago
    Curious. So, this is what I see: https://imgur.com/a/IJBlT4q https://imgur.com/a/IJBlT4q The actual dropdown doesn't happen on a new tab. (It will if I click on the bar or start typing, though.) I'll admit, I did not think of the bookmarks bar. (I don't use it, myself.) Thanks, too, for responding.

msclrhd 6y ago

I don't like the behaviour in Chrome or Slack either. I haven't tried the new Edge (Edgeium) -- the Trident/IE derived Edge only expands downward. 1. It is inconsistent with the behaviour of every other control, including other combobox/search/dropdown UI elements. The web search element on the new page/tab for both Firefox and Chrome only expand downward to show the results. (The one on Chrome adjusts the border radius slightly, but that is more to do with the way the border radius is calculated.) 2. I personally find it distracting, especially as it is moving in two directions at once. -- I don't like animated elements in the Windows start menu and YouTube's latest post section even more for the same reason (I notice the movement in the corner of my eye, then get distracted as it is drawing attention away from what I am doing). 3. It can happen when not user initiated, e.g. when switching to an already open tab where the focus then goes to the address bar. This further adds to the distracting "look at me!" nature of the new design, where you have to explicitly click away to get rid of. Couple that with reddit's behaviour of clicking outside a post navigating to the channels page and you have some fun times! 4. The dropdown of frequently visited pages can no longer be opened by the mouse only. You need to click on the address bar and then press the down arrow key.

quacker 6y ago

"in Firefox this effect activates when clicking the bar, while the other two enlarge when inputting data." This difference is why Firefox receives mores complaints. When opening a new tab in Firefox, the address bar is automatically focused. This actually makes the address bar larger than the bounds of the encapsulating toolbar. This combined with the drop shadows helps to partially obscure adjacent toolbar(s), like the bookmarks toolbar.

Yizahi 6y ago

It hijacks focus at new tab open. It has ugly looking shadow when focused over bookmark bar. It removed "arrow down" button. It replaced history for static top sites in the drop down. It enlarges text font on focus making it harder to quickly select parts. And the last but not least - they had months of beta testing and then still enforced popout animation with ability to disable it, despite negative feedback of multiple users. PS: I'm not disabling it on principle for now just to see like some people say if get used to it. So far it still annoys me after weeks of usage. It is just bad design and bad decision and FF team can't accept own mistakes, like small children.