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Thank you for responding also. I don't realize that I asked anyone to chime in. I just said what I thought and don't understand why I'm down voted and flagged i

by c3zh 6y ago

Thank you for responding also. I don't realize that I asked anyone to chime in. I just said what I thought and don't understand why I'm down voted and flagged immediately. TBH what I expected is some discussion (and maybe some down votes, but that's fair if I'm saying something different then others' thought). If this comment is not flagged, I am interested that specifically what autonomy is taken from Hong Kong so that this "un-nationalism" happened?

arcticbull 6y ago
The CPC has long meddled in Hong Kong, not least when they disappeared a Chinese billionaire from the penthouse of the Four Seasons [1] who has been 'receiving medical care on the mainland' for 3 years now and 'is very sorry for the trouble he caused'. This is a clear violation of Basic Law and the handover agreement which enshrines a degree of autonomy in Hong Kong and the rule of law. Then there's the case of the missing booksellers [2]. Another clear violation of Basic Law and the handover agreement which enshrines freedom of speech and of the press in Hong Kong (again, a violation of the rule of law). Then there's the fact that the high-speed rail station in Kowloon which connects to the mainland is guarded by China Police, who are not allowed to operate in Hong Kong under, you guessed it, Basic Law. [3] Not to mention the pro-democracy elected officials not being allowed to assume office. [4] The list goes on, and on, and on. The fact is the PRC agreed to treat Hong Kong a certain way for a certain period of time, and it has failed to live up to its obligations. It has for years now been boiling the frog, so to say, whittling away at the freedoms guaranteed to the Hong Kong people for decades before, and decades to come. With this, they've lurched over the line. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/chinese-billionaire-xiao-jianhua-abducted-from-hong-kong-hotel-reports https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/chinese-billio... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/magazine/the-case-of-hong-kongs-missing-booksellers.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/magazine/the-case-of-hong... [3] https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/04/high-speed-train-brings-chinese-border-into-heart-of-hong-kong https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/04/high-speed-tr... [4] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/14/hong-kong-pro-democracy-legislators-disqualified-parliament https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/14/hong-kong-pro-...
- bobthepanda 6y ago
  Also keep in mind that the first strike was probably the annulment of the 1995 LegCo on handover, because it was too open to public influence so the Chinese dissolved it and created a new one in 1998.

by c3zh 6y ago

arcticbull 6y ago

The CPC has long meddled in Hong Kong, not least when they disappeared a Chinese billionaire from the penthouse of the Four Seasons [1] who has been 'receiving medical care on the mainland' for 3 years now and 'is very sorry for the trouble he caused'. This is a clear violation of Basic Law and the handover agreement which enshrines a degree of autonomy in Hong Kong and the rule of law. Then there's the case of the missing booksellers [2]. Another clear violation of Basic Law and the handover agreement which enshrines freedom of speech and of the press in Hong Kong (again, a violation of the rule of law). Then there's the fact that the high-speed rail station in Kowloon which connects to the mainland is guarded by China Police, who are not allowed to operate in Hong Kong under, you guessed it, Basic Law. [3] Not to mention the pro-democracy elected officials not being allowed to assume office. [4] The list goes on, and on, and on. The fact is the PRC agreed to treat Hong Kong a certain way for a certain period of time, and it has failed to live up to its obligations. It has for years now been boiling the frog, so to say, whittling away at the freedoms guaranteed to the Hong Kong people for decades before, and decades to come. With this, they've lurched over the line. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/chinese-billionaire-xiao-jianhua-abducted-from-hong-kong-hotel-reports https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/chinese-billio... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/magazine/the-case-of-hong-kongs-missing-booksellers.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/magazine/the-case-of-hong... [3] https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/04/high-speed-train-brings-chinese-border-into-heart-of-hong-kong https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/04/high-speed-tr... [4] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/14/hong-kong-pro-democracy-legislators-disqualified-parliament https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/14/hong-kong-pro-...

bobthepanda 6y ago
Also keep in mind that the first strike was probably the annulment of the 1995 LegCo on handover, because it was too open to public influence so the Chinese dissolved it and created a new one in 1998.