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>By giving people freedom to explore the app store without having to worry about anything (except their wallets), Apple has possibly made the best move they cou

>By giving people freedom to explore the app store without having to worry about anything (except their wallets), Apple has possibly made the best move they could make by locking down the iPad’s installation sources. What a brave new world that has such people in it.

CaptainZapp 16y ago
Interesting, I wanted to comment along the line of Hate is Love War is Peace etc ... Brave new world (in combination with Newspeak) just about captures it.
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- StavrosK 16y ago
  Given that Brave New World described a utopia, I think "Hate is Love" is the only way to put what the article's saying.
cpr 16y ago
Yes, he's equivocating "open" with "more freedom to explore without fear", which is understandable for an enthusiastic 14-year-old. ;-) But he's making the same point that others have made, that freedom from worry about virii/spam/etc is a real advantage over the absolute openness of the web or desktop worlds, at least for non-geek population.
- lukeschlather 16y ago
  Well, I think Brave New World is particularly applicable because the same basic philosophy which supports Apple's actions also supports the belief that Huxley's dystopia is in fact a utopia. Obviously there's a difference of scale, but there's still the same sense. If people are content to be protected from smut and 'evil' speech, why do they need to have complete freedom to choose for themselves?
  - cpr 16y ago
    No, now you're equivocating the rather trivial matter (in the big picture of real life) of protection from sketchy apps with stifling freedom of speech in real life. You can always access the sketchy stuff on your Android or general web browser. There's no real lack of freedom. And, personally, beyond whatever moral objections I might have to porn on the app store, it's always associated with bottom-feeder and generally sketchy behaviors (they obviously don't have any qualms about making money any way they can), and I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. (Let the downvoting begin! ;-)
mhd 16y ago
Before I noticed the age of the author, I was hoping that someone is pulling a Swift on us here. NB: Imagine you've got an app store + additional ways to install applications. Why would this increase the worries of teenagers? (Their parents & teachers might think otherwise.) I certainly never got depressed in school by swapping around floppy disks of pirated games…
- maxharris 16y ago
  Before I noticed the age of the author So you're saying he must be wrong just because you're older than him? This can't be right because I'm 30 and I agree with him. It doesn't seem like age is the critical factor here. If I happen to be older than you, should I be able to dismiss anything you say as youthful naivety?
  - mhd 16y ago
    The incorrectness of the argument was never in doubt for me, to be honest. I was merely wondering whether this was out of naivety or a cynical parody. And in this day and age (and especially on the internets) I'm more prone to assume cynicism. Until I reread the first few paragraphs.
Rhapso 16y ago
A Brave New World indeed, now to make sure everybody finishes Huxley's book, and does not just think about how cool the the first few chapters are.
- pbourke 16y ago
  > What a brave new world that has such people in it. And read the Tempest, as well - that's what Huxley references in the title.

CaptainZapp 16y ago

Interesting, I wanted to comment along the line of Hate is Love War is Peace etc ... Brave new world (in combination with Newspeak) just about captures it.

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StavrosK 16y ago
Given that Brave New World described a utopia, I think "Hate is Love" is the only way to put what the article's saying.

cpr 16y ago

Yes, he's equivocating "open" with "more freedom to explore without fear", which is understandable for an enthusiastic 14-year-old. ;-) But he's making the same point that others have made, that freedom from worry about virii/spam/etc is a real advantage over the absolute openness of the web or desktop worlds, at least for non-geek population.

lukeschlather 16y ago
Well, I think Brave New World is particularly applicable because the same basic philosophy which supports Apple's actions also supports the belief that Huxley's dystopia is in fact a utopia. Obviously there's a difference of scale, but there's still the same sense. If people are content to be protected from smut and 'evil' speech, why do they need to have complete freedom to choose for themselves?
- cpr 16y ago
  No, now you're equivocating the rather trivial matter (in the big picture of real life) of protection from sketchy apps with stifling freedom of speech in real life. You can always access the sketchy stuff on your Android or general web browser. There's no real lack of freedom. And, personally, beyond whatever moral objections I might have to porn on the app store, it's always associated with bottom-feeder and generally sketchy behaviors (they obviously don't have any qualms about making money any way they can), and I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. (Let the downvoting begin! ;-)

mhd 16y ago

Before I noticed the age of the author, I was hoping that someone is pulling a Swift on us here. NB: Imagine you've got an app store + additional ways to install applications. Why would this increase the worries of teenagers? (Their parents & teachers might think otherwise.) I certainly never got depressed in school by swapping around floppy disks of pirated games…

maxharris 16y ago
Before I noticed the age of the author So you're saying he must be wrong just because you're older than him? This can't be right because I'm 30 and I agree with him. It doesn't seem like age is the critical factor here. If I happen to be older than you, should I be able to dismiss anything you say as youthful naivety?
- mhd 16y ago
  The incorrectness of the argument was never in doubt for me, to be honest. I was merely wondering whether this was out of naivety or a cynical parody. And in this day and age (and especially on the internets) I'm more prone to assume cynicism. Until I reread the first few paragraphs.

Rhapso 16y ago

A Brave New World indeed, now to make sure everybody finishes Huxley's book, and does not just think about how cool the the first few chapters are.

pbourke 16y ago
> What a brave new world that has such people in it. And read the Tempest, as well - that's what Huxley references in the title.