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I gave him a chance because my cousin is one of these "anarcho-capitalism" guys (which is a contradiction, anarchy means lack of a control system or gov't, and

I gave him a chance because my cousin is one of these "anarcho-capitalism" guys (which is a contradiction, anarchy means lack of a control system or gov't, and capitalism is a power structure) and loved Molyneux. I've always been more of a fan of Richard Wolff and his project, Democracy at Work.[0] But a less serious intellectual than Dr. Wolff (of Yale, Harvard, Stanford), Peter Joseph of the Zeitgeist Project has made Stefan look foolish.[1] And an even less serious intellectual than Peter Joseph has caught out Stefan (me), he's one of those that says "communism kills people", but yet "guns do not kill people". If inanimate objects don't spontaneously kill people Stefan, neither do ideas. He's beneath a lightweight on his ability to think clearly. [0]https://www.youtube.com/user/democracyatwrk https://www.youtube.com/user/democracyatwrk [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaP2GJvZlWY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaP2GJvZlWY

thu2111 6y ago
Anarcho-capitalists don't see capitalism as a power structure though. They see it as something natural that emerges organically, without it being imposed on top. They argue that, for example, markets appear in failed states, they emerge even when the states try to suppress them (black markets), and they're a natural outcome of different skills and needs. So it's not a power structure any more than say, mountains are a power structure, even though some people can exploit mountains pretty effectively to gain advantage.
- BuckRogers 6y ago
  That’s an interesting point, my only immediate thought is that markets and capitalism are two entirely separate entities. Capitalism gets a lot in free credit (no pun intended) riding off the coat tails of market economics. In short, capitalism is paying others to do your work, but paying them less then the value they produce. Not an attractive proposition since it always trends towards Foxconn without a mechanism to counteract it such as a union. A market can exist without that, bartering is all you need there.

thu2111 6y ago

Anarcho-capitalists don't see capitalism as a power structure though. They see it as something natural that emerges organically, without it being imposed on top. They argue that, for example, markets appear in failed states, they emerge even when the states try to suppress them (black markets), and they're a natural outcome of different skills and needs. So it's not a power structure any more than say, mountains are a power structure, even though some people can exploit mountains pretty effectively to gain advantage.

BuckRogers 6y ago
That’s an interesting point, my only immediate thought is that markets and capitalism are two entirely separate entities. Capitalism gets a lot in free credit (no pun intended) riding off the coat tails of market economics. In short, capitalism is paying others to do your work, but paying them less then the value they produce. Not an attractive proposition since it always trends towards Foxconn without a mechanism to counteract it such as a union. A market can exist without that, bartering is all you need there.