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Few months ago I made a friendly bet with my American coworkers that 2020, 2024 or 2028 elections will see a non-Democrat, non-Republican president being electe

by Xixi 6y ago

Few months ago I made a friendly bet with my American coworkers that 2020, 2024 or 2028 elections will see a non-Democrat, non-Republican president being elected. Bi-partisanism is so entrenched in American views of politics that American seem to have forgotten that it's quite accidental: most democracies around the world have way more than 2 dominating parties. Sure, the election system in the US makes it quite a bit harder to have more than two parties, but... Americans are so conditionned by bi-partisanism that most will be surprised when it happens. But it will happen. You are not alone in thinking that both Republicans and Democrats have lost their ways. After 5 years spent in the US (in NYC) I would even say that you are, in fact, the majority. Anecdote, obviously, but I know just too many conservatives who can't (and don't) support the Republican party anymore.

stx 6y ago
I hope you are right but I don't think it will happen. I you are right that most Americans (US Americans) fall more to the center and resent both parties. If a candidate does not get on the R or D ticket though, I don't think they have a chance. I think it's possible we will have candidates who are not traditional. Trump jumped into politics and somehow won when no one expected it. He may have done so though by simply saying what he thought people wanted to hear. I don't think that we will see a libertarian or green party candidate win anytime soon.
- basch 6y ago
  It could happen if parasites like Trump hijacks both parties against their will, and the 3rd party is one of the hijacked parties establishment candidate. E.g. Bernie, Trump, and Romney. The summed status quo Globalist vote might outweigh Bernie and Trump splitting the Nationalist vote along party lines. From another perspective, if the DNC lost its mind and for some reason put together a Klobuchar/Clinton ticket to run against a Palin/MarjorieGreene, would someone like Michelle Obama be able to be more likable than either other grouping? As both tickets grow more silly, and more extreme, it leaves more space for an establishment player to step into the middle and look sane. Bloomberg thought he was that person, and obviously didn't get his closet skeletons in order.

by Xixi 6y ago

stx 6y ago

I hope you are right but I don't think it will happen. I you are right that most Americans (US Americans) fall more to the center and resent both parties. If a candidate does not get on the R or D ticket though, I don't think they have a chance. I think it's possible we will have candidates who are not traditional. Trump jumped into politics and somehow won when no one expected it. He may have done so though by simply saying what he thought people wanted to hear. I don't think that we will see a libertarian or green party candidate win anytime soon.

basch 6y ago
It could happen if parasites like Trump hijacks both parties against their will, and the 3rd party is one of the hijacked parties establishment candidate. E.g. Bernie, Trump, and Romney. The summed status quo Globalist vote might outweigh Bernie and Trump splitting the Nationalist vote along party lines. From another perspective, if the DNC lost its mind and for some reason put together a Klobuchar/Clinton ticket to run against a Palin/MarjorieGreene, would someone like Michelle Obama be able to be more likable than either other grouping? As both tickets grow more silly, and more extreme, it leaves more space for an establishment player to step into the middle and look sane. Bloomberg thought he was that person, and obviously didn't get his closet skeletons in order.