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> Furthermore, if there are platforms where AnyList doesn’t support Sign in with Apple, like Android, and someone wants to log into their account, they’d have t

> Furthermore, if there are platforms where AnyList doesn’t support Sign in with Apple, like Android, and someone wants to log into their account, they’d have to know their privaterelay.appleid.com email address. (And that certainly won’t be easy to find if you no longer have an iOS device.) And then they’d have to create a password with us, since they wouldn’t be able to sign in using Sign in with Apple. I’m an avid iOS user with a Windows desktop. I will never use “Sign-In with Apple” for this reason. It’s not useable unless you exclusively use Apple devices. Which I don’t.

WorldMaker 6y ago
Sign-In with Apple is a (mostly) standard OpenID Connect provider that works everywhere (and works just like sign in with FB, Google, et al from a technical implementation), including the Web and Android. It's an interesting miscommunication or misunderstanding (and I was not surprised to see it in this article) that applications and developers think the "Sign in with Apple" button should only show up on Apple devices. It should show up on the web and in Android apps, Apple only requires it on Apple devices because that's the only devices that they control. I wish Apple communicated that better and/or developers better understood that Sign in with Apple really is a FB/Google/social login button like all of the others and should be supported everywhere, not just Apple devices. (I'm in the iOS/Windows dual mode user team myself these days and find that I trust Sign-In with Apple, but I've definitely had to already email developers to request that they add the Sign-In with Apple button to websites and explain why they would/should.)
- tech-historian 6y ago
  If you read the article, you'd see they address the reason they cannot implement it on Android yet. Apple hasn't provided documentation for it. Apple doesn't seem to be taking it seriously.
  - WorldMaker 6y ago
    To keep my reply in a single place: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23684452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23684452
- forrestthewoods 6y ago
  If I’m on Windows and see Sign-in with Apple how am I supposed to sign in? By typing in a generated email address? It’d not that it can’t work, it’s that it’s a miserable user experience.
  - WorldMaker 6y ago
    If you are on Windows and see Sign-In with Apple, Apple asks you to sign into iCloud, on their servers, if you are not already. It's almost the exact same sign-in flow you would see on Windows iTunes or Windows version of iCloud. You use your normal iCloud account information and 2FA verification (authorize the login in one of your Apple devices). Apple's servers look up the generated app-specific email address for you, just like your Apple device would, and passes that on when it passes the authentication token to the requesting application (which would use the same application identifiers it uses on iOS). It's no worse a user experience than Sign in with Facebook or Sign in with Google, and in most ways it is the exact same user experience: click the button, get an Apple sign in prompt on Apple servers, sign in, get automatically redirected back to whatever app needed the sign in.
    - forrestthewoods 6y ago
      Interesting. I’ve never signed into iCloud on my Windows PC so tbh the thought that’s how it worked never crossed my mind! I’ve also never come across a “sign in with Apple” button on Windows. Not sure I’ve seen it on iOS either...

WorldMaker 6y ago

Sign-In with Apple is a (mostly) standard OpenID Connect provider that works everywhere (and works just like sign in with FB, Google, et al from a technical implementation), including the Web and Android. It's an interesting miscommunication or misunderstanding (and I was not surprised to see it in this article) that applications and developers think the "Sign in with Apple" button should only show up on Apple devices. It should show up on the web and in Android apps, Apple only requires it on Apple devices because that's the only devices that they control. I wish Apple communicated that better and/or developers better understood that Sign in with Apple really is a FB/Google/social login button like all of the others and should be supported everywhere, not just Apple devices. (I'm in the iOS/Windows dual mode user team myself these days and find that I trust Sign-In with Apple, but I've definitely had to already email developers to request that they add the Sign-In with Apple button to websites and explain why they would/should.)

tech-historian 6y ago
If you read the article, you'd see they address the reason they cannot implement it on Android yet. Apple hasn't provided documentation for it. Apple doesn't seem to be taking it seriously.
- WorldMaker 6y ago
  To keep my reply in a single place: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23684452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23684452
forrestthewoods 6y ago
If I’m on Windows and see Sign-in with Apple how am I supposed to sign in? By typing in a generated email address? It’d not that it can’t work, it’s that it’s a miserable user experience.
- WorldMaker 6y ago
  If you are on Windows and see Sign-In with Apple, Apple asks you to sign into iCloud, on their servers, if you are not already. It's almost the exact same sign-in flow you would see on Windows iTunes or Windows version of iCloud. You use your normal iCloud account information and 2FA verification (authorize the login in one of your Apple devices). Apple's servers look up the generated app-specific email address for you, just like your Apple device would, and passes that on when it passes the authentication token to the requesting application (which would use the same application identifiers it uses on iOS). It's no worse a user experience than Sign in with Facebook or Sign in with Google, and in most ways it is the exact same user experience: click the button, get an Apple sign in prompt on Apple servers, sign in, get automatically redirected back to whatever app needed the sign in.
  - forrestthewoods 6y ago
    Interesting. I’ve never signed into iCloud on my Windows PC so tbh the thought that’s how it worked never crossed my mind! I’ve also never come across a “sign in with Apple” button on Windows. Not sure I’ve seen it on iOS either...