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IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. All they need is to store the device IDs to which they display ads and install apps so that they can a

IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. All they need is to store the device IDs to which they display ads and install apps so that they can attribute app installs to specific advertisements. You're logged into their app store, so you should expect Apple to already know the device ID when they display ads and install apps.

cromwellian 6y ago
But I pay for the App Store indirectly through high margin hardware, transaction fees, including the 30% tax, so shouldn’t i be able to turn off Apple’s ad network all together and not let them advertise to me in the App Store by using my purchase history? Funny how privacy invasions are bad and everything should be done on device until Apple starts selling ads and then it’s ok somehow for them to use your behavior/purchase profile.
- ThrustVectoring 6y ago
  I'm not talking about personalizing ads here, I'm talking about storing who Apple has served ads to so that they can tell advertisers which ads lead to how many app installs.
- BurritoAlPastor 6y ago
  You can! https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074
  - cromwellian 6y ago
    Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
    - cromwellian 6y ago
      Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
- kungato 6y ago
  The thing is, you don't get to choose how you pay. You only get tho coose whether you want to pay or not. They can track you and you can not use the service.
saagarjha 6y ago
> IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. The entire point of consent is that your opinion doesn't really matter; mine does.

cromwellian 6y ago

But I pay for the App Store indirectly through high margin hardware, transaction fees, including the 30% tax, so shouldn’t i be able to turn off Apple’s ad network all together and not let them advertise to me in the App Store by using my purchase history? Funny how privacy invasions are bad and everything should be done on device until Apple starts selling ads and then it’s ok somehow for them to use your behavior/purchase profile.

ThrustVectoring 6y ago
I'm not talking about personalizing ads here, I'm talking about storing who Apple has served ads to so that they can tell advertisers which ads lead to how many app installs.
BurritoAlPastor 6y ago
You can! https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074
- cromwellian 6y ago
  Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
  - cromwellian 6y ago
    Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
kungato 6y ago
The thing is, you don't get to choose how you pay. You only get tho coose whether you want to pay or not. They can track you and you can not use the service.

saagarjha 6y ago

> IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. The entire point of consent is that your opinion doesn't really matter; mine does.