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> What, should these people build their own consumer credit company too? Why would racist Whites stop there? Pretty soon they'll want to build their own govern

> What, should these people build their own consumer credit company too? Why would racist Whites stop there? Pretty soon they'll want to build their own governments: literal White nationalism. Republicans are already talking about secession in a positive light… To protect minorities, the 2nd Amendment has to be gutted as much as possible before that kind of thing happens, even if we must seriously bend the existing Civil Rights legislation to do so (Republicans can't stand up to the NRA, even if they wanted to). Biden has the right kinds of policy ideas, but he needs to go further. https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/ https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/ > Close the “hate crime loophole.” Biden will enact legislation prohibiting an individual “who has been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime, or received an enhanced sentence for a misdemeanor because of hate or bias in its commission” from purchasing or possessing a firearm.

sparkie 6y ago
> Close the “hate crime loophole.” Biden will enact legislation prohibiting an individual “who has been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime Can you not see the new loophole? Simply convict anybody we don't want owning a firearm of a made up misdemeanour or hate crime. 2A BTFO.
- erichocean 6y ago
  > 2A BTFO Right? Incredibly clever, and I think that kind of precedent can be taken much further by the courts if they had any kind of backbone...
bitcurious 6y ago
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. The main point seems to be that in absence of rule of law and due process, armed revolution will come, so let's subvert the rule of law to prevent that? What am I missing?
- erichocean 6y ago
  > What am I missing? No laws or "due process" are being broken when Gab—a social network created to host as much hate speech as possible—is denied access to Visa's financial network. I'm not suggesting we "subvert the rule of law", I'm suggesting we use the existing laws (and pass new ones when needed, like Biden wants to do) to disarm racist Whites before they attempt to kill vulnerable minorities. Literally yesterday there was a racist White couple in St. Louis [0] pointing guns at peaceful protestors—safeties off, fingers on the trigger. Under Biden's proposed legislation, they could easily be given a (well-deserved) hate crime misdemeanor and then have their guns taken away. That's "due process" and "the rule of law" at work. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/us/st-louis-couple-protest-firearms-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/us/st-louis-couple-protest-fi...
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sparkie 6y ago

> Close the “hate crime loophole.” Biden will enact legislation prohibiting an individual “who has been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime Can you not see the new loophole? Simply convict anybody we don't want owning a firearm of a made up misdemeanour or hate crime. 2A BTFO.

erichocean 6y ago
> 2A BTFO Right? Incredibly clever, and I think that kind of precedent can be taken much further by the courts if they had any kind of backbone...

bitcurious 6y ago

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. The main point seems to be that in absence of rule of law and due process, armed revolution will come, so let's subvert the rule of law to prevent that? What am I missing?

erichocean 6y ago
> What am I missing? No laws or "due process" are being broken when Gab—a social network created to host as much hate speech as possible—is denied access to Visa's financial network. I'm not suggesting we "subvert the rule of law", I'm suggesting we use the existing laws (and pass new ones when needed, like Biden wants to do) to disarm racist Whites before they attempt to kill vulnerable minorities. Literally yesterday there was a racist White couple in St. Louis [0] pointing guns at peaceful protestors—safeties off, fingers on the trigger. Under Biden's proposed legislation, they could easily be given a (well-deserved) hate crime misdemeanor and then have their guns taken away. That's "due process" and "the rule of law" at work. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/us/st-louis-couple-protest-firearms-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/us/st-louis-couple-protest-fi...
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