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"Screaming 'racism' at people because blacks are collectively less intelligent...is insane." “You cannot run a high IQ [white] society with low IQ [non-white]

• etherael 6y ago
  > "Screaming 'racism' at people because blacks are collectively less intelligent...is insane." Is it 'racist' to scream at people because whites have a lower distribution of fast twitch muscle fibers than blacks and thus the results and distributions of champions in sports where this is essential heavily favour blacks? Is this a comment on the "inferiority" of a specific race, or an observation of material reality? Why are you "inferior" if you have less fast twitch muscle fibers, or a specific genetic distribution that results in some demographic group of which you are a member (not even you, individually, necessarily) having a lower IQ? Saying that traits differ between racial phenotypes is not the same thing as saying that racial phenotypes are "inferior" or "superior". > You cannot run a high IQ [white] society with low IQ [non-white] people Which is to say you're bracketing things in there that weren't actually said, but I was listening at the time and I recall the context specifically referred to racial groups that have an observed higher IQ distribution than "whites", so once again, it's not a case of "inferiority" vs "superiority". It's a case of "Here are these observed distributions in actual demographic data from all over the world". To equate the two and pretend they're the same thing is frankly dishonest. > There are many more: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi You know, although a lot of the quotes in this link are purposely taken out of context and even directly bracketed to imply something that was not actually said, reading this actually the worst one I could find and the one that I think comes closest to being a legitimate charge of the "inferior" vs "superior" dichotomy is potentially "I don’t view humanity as a single species...” which is outright scientifically false, so I'm listening now to the particular piece where this is spoken to figure out if it's more of the above distortions or actually as bad as it sounds, and will check back in afterwards with either an apology for claiming that the original statement was false or a correction on this particular quote, too. EDIT; Just wow, turns out this was the most deceptive quote of all. He was not referring to racial phenotypes in this discussion at all, the context was in the discussion of individuals who have engaged in the violent rape of a child, it had nothing at all to do with race. I'm disgusted with the audacity of the outright lying of the SPLC to this magnitude. It seems to me a significant reason they might be trying to censor people like this as well is so they can make these claims that turn out to be outright lies, and it is then impossible to actually go back and check what was said, and you're left with having to take their word for it, just as is presently the case with all their citations that point to youtube. Full quote for context on just how ridiculous this characterisation actually is; Caller; I also heard a sex therapist talk, some guy who's been working with specifically men for the past thirty-five years who said the hardest thing to cure, is the man who's already crossed the line into the sexual abuse of children or violence towards children.. Molyneux; Look I've made this argument for many years, that the conscience short circuits and is no longer available for recovery, when you have done an evil for which there is no restitution. And there is no restitution possible for the rape of a child. Or the murder of a child. There's no parent who would say give me ten million dollars, you can murder my child. If somebody said listen, Stef, if I steal your bike, I'll give you ten million dollars, well basically you're just buying my bike for an absurd amount of money. Molyneux; But for certain ills, there is no restitution that is possible. And where restitution is impossible, forgiveness is impossible, and where forgiveness is impossible, it seems to me that incarceration, isolation of the human virus from the community is the right thing to do. I don't view humanity as a single species. Timestamp 24:30 for anyone that wants to verify this for themselves https://cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_2768_Wednesday_Show_9_Aug_2014.mp3 https://cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_2768_Wednesday_Show_9_Au...
  • fault_lines 6y ago
    You should revise your original statement from "he didn't say those things" to "he said those things, but I agree with them". Thanks.
    • etherael 6y ago
      I don't agree with them, I don't believe that a statistically observed difference in a particular trait according to racial phenotypes implies that racial phenotype is "inferior" or "superior" to begin with. And it turns out that just as I originally said, he didn't say them. To clarify, what exactly is it that you disagree with, that the statistical observation in question exists, or that if it does exist, it doesn't necessarily imply that the racial phenotype in question must be "superior" or "inferior"?
      • Kednicma 6y ago
        I'll take your second branch, and I'll take the contrapositive: Because there is such overwhelming evidence that all humans belong to a single genetic legacy, one single race, we therefore must reject the entire premise that started the statistical inquiry. Instead, we are obligated to realize that IQ is not correlated with some mythic "g" number, and instead correlated with socioeconomic status and quality of education.
        • etherael 6y ago
          > I'll take your second branch, and I'll take the contrapositive: What I originally said was; "it does exist, it doesn't necessarily imply that the racial phenotype in question must be "superior" or "inferior"?" So the contrapositive to that would be that it does imply that racial phenotype differences must also necessarily imply superior or inferior. To give you credit though, that does not seem to actually be what you're saying at all though. Breaking down what you do actually say; > Because there is such overwhelming evidence that all humans belong to a single genetic legacy Has nothing to do with what I said at all. I never claimed that racial phenotypes imply a separation in species. > one single race Appears to deny the existence of racial phenotypes by interpreting the term "race" to mean "species". That doesn't mean that racial phenotypes don't actually exist. > we therefore must reject the entire premise that started the statistical inquiry. Putting aside the question that this assumes that the entire premise that started the statistical inquiry in question is well known and completely accepted already, and regardless of what we do to the premise that started the statistical inquiry in question, we still have the results of the statistical inquiry in question to contend with. This doesn't actually answer any questions. > Instead, we are obligated to realize that IQ is not correlated with some mythic "g" number I should hope we are not obligated to realise that at all, because as a simple question of correlation, g factor and IQ is indeed highly correlated, so any such obligation would make us willfully ignorant. In fact the way some IQ tests have their efficiency measured is to observe that correlation. To say that again for emphasis; it is the very way in which many of the tests in question are given validity. > instead correlated with socioeconomic status and quality of education. There's no "instead" here. IQ scores correlate statistically on all three measures (amongst many others). Frankly, the way people address this entire issue desperately trying to make it something other than what it clearly is, when what it clearly is doesn't necessarily imply that it is thus somehow acceptable to persecute racial minorities, or view a specific racial phenotype as "inferior" or "superior" actually does favours to the racial tribalist perspective. If there's an observable undeniable widespread campaign resulting in the continuous deplatforming and vigorous persecution of all the people in the world who dare to point out that the sky is blue because some of the people who claim that the sky is blue also claim that therefore all people that aren't blue should be killed, and that there's a conspiracy to suppress the fact that the sky is blue, that puts them at definitely correct regarding two of three points, and silencing everybody who claims simply that the sky is blue and nobody should be killed as a consequence of it removes the visibility of the most compelling argument for why the narrative that all non blue people should be killed is ridiculous. Instead all that remains for the neutral disinterested observer is a massive chorus of people claiming that all blue people / non blue people should be killed and that the sky is any colour other than blue. All under a blue sky. Is it any wonder they throw their hands up and go crazy? Once upon a time I would've said I don't understand this seeming stupidity, but being older and more cynical now I can't help but suspect it's simply a desperate attempt to throw more fuel on the divide and conquer bonfire by entrenched political elites so the underclass can be kept at each other's throats over table scraps while the aforementioned political overclass gleefully continues looting the vast majority of global wealth. But hey, I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist, now continuously rate limited for my evil wrongthink, so whatever. I'm disgusted with, and tired of this place. I've been here eleven years now and I've watched the quality, slowly at first, and with increasing rapidity in more recent years, decline and the minds that gather here spew thought terminating cliches in progressively more shrill chorus as time has gone on, and writing this now I realise that I just get nothing whatsoever out of engagement here anymore, so this will be my final post. Best of luck to anyone who intends to stick around and see if it pulls out of its decade long nosedive, but I'm done.
• mesozoic 6y ago
  Video is gone can't be verified.