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That is an increasingly cynical view to expose given that the people who decide to do that just get blacklisted by the financial elite. https://twitter.com/TheE

That is an increasingly cynical view to expose given that the people who decide to do that just get blacklisted by the financial elite. https://twitter.com/TheEbonyMaw/status/1277120076186112000 https://twitter.com/TheEbonyMaw/status/1277120076186112000, https://reclaimthenet.org/gab-andrew-torba-visa-blacklisted-family-hate-speech/ https://reclaimthenet.org/gab-andrew-torba-visa-blacklisted-...

etherael 6y ago
Thus making the case why alternative financial systems outside their power are essential.
- throwaway29102 6y ago
  Absolutely. The Rothschild conspiracy is very real.
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sparkie 6y ago
Bitcoin fixes this.
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  I would say a cryptocurrency with more throughput than a 144p youtube video could confront this.
renewiltord 6y ago
It's like everything about ads and tracking: your business model is not my problem. Some businesses are just unviable. Compete or die.
- logarhythmic 6y ago
  Come on... It's not so simple
- throwmehaweh 6y ago
  It's funny I see this comment all the time on HN, but in a very similar scenario recently, where DHH launched Hey app and was stonewalled by Apple, I didn't see a single comment saying "hey just go build your own app store". Telling someone to "just go build your own" is lazy and weightless.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    I didn't find the subject interesting but I'll complete the request for consistency here: it doesn't bother me that Apple requires Hey to use in-app purchases.
  - erik_seaberg 6y ago
    "Just build your own web host" is feasible, but "just build your own app store" is not because it requires replacing half of your users' mobile phones.
    - 0xy 6y ago
      No, it's not. Because eventually you get censored by domain registrars themselves. Not to mention DDoS mitigation providers, payment providers, browsers etc.
ohgodplsno 6y ago
Oh no, nazis are being deplatformed, what shall the world do, except be better :(
danudey 6y ago
Sounds like the majority of society is against the kind of hate and violence these people cheer for, and companies don't want to be associated with it. Is this not capitalism working as intended? If Visa won't let you fund your hate speech, then I guess go find someone who will. If no one is willing, maybe that says more about you than about them.
fao_ 6y ago
Yes, if you, as a nazi or other sort of radical, create services dedicated to "free speech", that include people who are openly nazis, or otherwise genocidal in nature, people will not want to be associated with you. That is a consequence of those views, and private organisations have the right to do that, since they are -- by their very nature -- private. The types of people that moved to Gab hate "big government" and are against market regulation, but suddenly want the government to step in when companies blacklist them. They want the ability to "just ask questions" when it's clear they only intend to create inflammatory arguments so they get the excuse to degrade people. People like that complain people shouldn't force their views onto other people and then force their own hateful views about abortion, birth control, etc. I mean hell, r/conservative said this point themselves, in a strikingly moment of hilarious self-awareness: https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/hle529/good_question_there_third_comment/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/hle529/goo... The reason they get turned away from every and all social networks thusfar is because they cannot conduct themselves in a civil manner.

etherael 6y ago

Thus making the case why alternative financial systems outside their power are essential.

throwaway29102 6y ago
Absolutely. The Rothschild conspiracy is very real.

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sparkie 6y ago

Bitcoin fixes this.

CyberDildonics 6y ago
I would say a cryptocurrency with more throughput than a 144p youtube video could confront this.

renewiltord 6y ago

It's like everything about ads and tracking: your business model is not my problem. Some businesses are just unviable. Compete or die.

logarhythmic 6y ago
Come on... It's not so simple
throwmehaweh 6y ago
It's funny I see this comment all the time on HN, but in a very similar scenario recently, where DHH launched Hey app and was stonewalled by Apple, I didn't see a single comment saying "hey just go build your own app store". Telling someone to "just go build your own" is lazy and weightless.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  I didn't find the subject interesting but I'll complete the request for consistency here: it doesn't bother me that Apple requires Hey to use in-app purchases.
- erik_seaberg 6y ago
  "Just build your own web host" is feasible, but "just build your own app store" is not because it requires replacing half of your users' mobile phones.
  - 0xy 6y ago
    No, it's not. Because eventually you get censored by domain registrars themselves. Not to mention DDoS mitigation providers, payment providers, browsers etc.

ohgodplsno 6y ago

Oh no, nazis are being deplatformed, what shall the world do, except be better :(

danudey 6y ago

Sounds like the majority of society is against the kind of hate and violence these people cheer for, and companies don't want to be associated with it. Is this not capitalism working as intended? If Visa won't let you fund your hate speech, then I guess go find someone who will. If no one is willing, maybe that says more about you than about them.

fao_ 6y ago

Yes, if you, as a nazi or other sort of radical, create services dedicated to "free speech", that include people who are openly nazis, or otherwise genocidal in nature, people will not want to be associated with you. That is a consequence of those views, and private organisations have the right to do that, since they are -- by their very nature -- private. The types of people that moved to Gab hate "big government" and are against market regulation, but suddenly want the government to step in when companies blacklist them. They want the ability to "just ask questions" when it's clear they only intend to create inflammatory arguments so they get the excuse to degrade people. People like that complain people shouldn't force their views onto other people and then force their own hateful views about abortion, birth control, etc. I mean hell, r/conservative said this point themselves, in a strikingly moment of hilarious self-awareness: https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/hle529/good_question_there_third_comment/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/hle529/goo... The reason they get turned away from every and all social networks thusfar is because they cannot conduct themselves in a civil manner.