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This is not directly related, but I saw the policy: "videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based

This is not directly related, but I saw the policy: "videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status" I'm curious if anyone know the root of "veteran" on this list? I am just not familiar with that kind of -ism (veteran-ism?).

oh_sigh 6y ago
You can't discriminate against someone for having served in the military in the US. Someone who served in the military is a veteran. Also, the phrasing of their policy is strange. Apparently you can argue all you want that racial group X is inferior all you want, but if you don't try to exclude them from something, that is okay.
whateveracct 6y ago
I think veterans are considered a suspect class & there exists legislation protecting against discrimination.
- mmmmmbop 6y ago
  I wonder if this policy is valid outside the US. If so, are you allowed to discriminate against veterans of the Wehrmacht, or the SS?
epc 6y ago
Veterans are a protected class (at least under labor law) in the US based on a 1974 (VEVRAA).
- lowmemcpu 6y ago
  I'm surprised that makes the jump from employment/labor law to speech/politics policies. Strawman: If I were a politician campaigning and were to say something like, "Veterans do not deserve benefits and I don't think we should fund veteran benefits" or "Veterans do not deserve our blind respect", am I now discriminating and will get banned from the platform?
  - epc 6y ago
    <#include I–am–not–a–lawyer–this–is–not–legal–advice.h> My understanding dates to the 1990s but a covered company does not get to pick and choose what areas a protected class may be discriminated against. So, if a class is considered protected from labor discrimination you cannot discriminate against that class in any of your business areas (based on membership in that class. Basically: if someone is a member of a protected class, you cannot discriminate against them, you cannot foster discrimination against them by your employees, products, or services. My personal opinion is that a candidate who said that veterans should lose benefits as part of their campaign would probably slide through this sort of prohibition, however if that politician called for some sort of action against veterans then they would get censored/banned/whatever. Again, not a lawyer.
    - mchusma 6y ago
      Thanks. I suspect there may be no actual cases of YT actually banning videos for anti-veteran speech, but it is on their list because it is on a list of protected classes.

oh_sigh 6y ago

You can't discriminate against someone for having served in the military in the US. Someone who served in the military is a veteran. Also, the phrasing of their policy is strange. Apparently you can argue all you want that racial group X is inferior all you want, but if you don't try to exclude them from something, that is okay.

whateveracct 6y ago

I think veterans are considered a suspect class & there exists legislation protecting against discrimination.

mmmmmbop 6y ago
I wonder if this policy is valid outside the US. If so, are you allowed to discriminate against veterans of the Wehrmacht, or the SS?

epc 6y ago

Veterans are a protected class (at least under labor law) in the US based on a 1974 (VEVRAA).

lowmemcpu 6y ago
I'm surprised that makes the jump from employment/labor law to speech/politics policies. Strawman: If I were a politician campaigning and were to say something like, "Veterans do not deserve benefits and I don't think we should fund veteran benefits" or "Veterans do not deserve our blind respect", am I now discriminating and will get banned from the platform?
- epc 6y ago
  <#include I–am–not–a–lawyer–this–is–not–legal–advice.h> My understanding dates to the 1990s but a covered company does not get to pick and choose what areas a protected class may be discriminated against. So, if a class is considered protected from labor discrimination you cannot discriminate against that class in any of your business areas (based on membership in that class. Basically: if someone is a member of a protected class, you cannot discriminate against them, you cannot foster discrimination against them by your employees, products, or services. My personal opinion is that a candidate who said that veterans should lose benefits as part of their campaign would probably slide through this sort of prohibition, however if that politician called for some sort of action against veterans then they would get censored/banned/whatever. Again, not a lawyer.
  - mchusma 6y ago
    Thanks. I suspect there may be no actual cases of YT actually banning videos for anti-veteran speech, but it is on their list because it is on a list of protected classes.