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Building AdSense & Amazon Website Experiment

22 points by kreci 16y ago

kreci 16y ago
Comments are welcome... =)
- getsat 16y ago
  Have you ever considered using ScrapeBox or Xrumer for consistently building backlinks over a period of time? A short burst of backlinks and then nada allegedly looks suspicious to Google.
  - andfarm 16y ago
    So, comment spam tools? That's deep into the realm of "black-hat SEO".
    - getsat 16y ago
      That it is. BH SEO is (unfortunately) extremely effective. If you're content farming by rewriting other people's content, you're not providing much additional value to the Internet at large and you're, at most, a few steps away from being a black hat as it is.
user24 16y ago
awesome idea, nice execution so far - keep us updated on your progress!
- kreci 16y ago
  Thanks. I will post updates once per few weeks.
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greyman 16y ago
Hi kreci, so as I understand it, you are basically build a niche content farm? You would buy rewritten articles for $1.75 and then try to push them to Google using seo techniques so Adsense and Amazon aff links will earn more than the expenses are. I'd like to ask what are the criteria to find out "a niche that has enough search traffic and earning potential." You just compare the numbers with other websites you own?
MediaBehavior 16y ago
Very clean, attractive design. This might almost be worth an "Ask HN" but where does a guy starting a lean blog presence find useful attractive (free? cheap?) images that are topical? You seem to have done really well on that: are they from the manufacturer? In either case: how do you determine (without long legal chase for just one image-use) willingness of original owner to have their product images used?
brendino 16y ago
This model seems pretty common for content/Adsense-based websites. I've always been somewhat skeptical of the actual ability to produce profit in the long run - how much value are you actually adding to the Internet? I'm definitely interested to see where it goes and how long it takes to generate reasonable Adsense revenues (e.g. $1+ a day). My only concern is that this isn't really a true experiment if you post it on HN and market it on your blog. Don't you think these websites (e.g. reddit, HN) could cross-contaminate what you're trying to determine?
cosgroveb 16y ago
Did you just admit to paying for backlinks? Isn't that a good way to get penalized in search rankings by Google?
digitaltothem 16y ago
OK, maybe you should Google "farmer update" and read a bit about that. Then check your backlinks. I could not find those 500 backlinks you bought. All I can see are 59 external links from 3 unique domains. So what have you done with them them when you got them?
tluyben2 16y ago
Hmm. What's nice about this; there are thousands of these kinds of posts online and many without affiliate links hooked up :)
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naner 16y ago
Yes this is exactly what the world needs. More websites with garbage content. You can build something small and useful, you know.
- yeahsure 16y ago
  In my -very limited- experience, the best way to make money with AdSense and/or Amazon is by actually making garbage websites. Nothing better to make a visitor click on an ad than a fugly website.
franksinatra2 16y ago
Why does this belong on HN again?

22 points by kreci 16y ago

kreci 16y ago

Comments are welcome... =)

getsat 16y ago
Have you ever considered using ScrapeBox or Xrumer for consistently building backlinks over a period of time? A short burst of backlinks and then nada allegedly looks suspicious to Google.
- andfarm 16y ago
  So, comment spam tools? That's deep into the realm of "black-hat SEO".
  - getsat 16y ago
    That it is. BH SEO is (unfortunately) extremely effective. If you're content farming by rewriting other people's content, you're not providing much additional value to the Internet at large and you're, at most, a few steps away from being a black hat as it is.

user24 16y ago

awesome idea, nice execution so far - keep us updated on your progress!

kreci 16y ago
Thanks. I will post updates once per few weeks.

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greyman 16y ago

Hi kreci, so as I understand it, you are basically build a niche content farm? You would buy rewritten articles for $1.75 and then try to push them to Google using seo techniques so Adsense and Amazon aff links will earn more than the expenses are. I'd like to ask what are the criteria to find out "a niche that has enough search traffic and earning potential." You just compare the numbers with other websites you own?

MediaBehavior 16y ago

Very clean, attractive design. This might almost be worth an "Ask HN" but where does a guy starting a lean blog presence find useful attractive (free? cheap?) images that are topical? You seem to have done really well on that: are they from the manufacturer? In either case: how do you determine (without long legal chase for just one image-use) willingness of original owner to have their product images used?

brendino 16y ago

This model seems pretty common for content/Adsense-based websites. I've always been somewhat skeptical of the actual ability to produce profit in the long run - how much value are you actually adding to the Internet? I'm definitely interested to see where it goes and how long it takes to generate reasonable Adsense revenues (e.g. $1+ a day). My only concern is that this isn't really a true experiment if you post it on HN and market it on your blog. Don't you think these websites (e.g. reddit, HN) could cross-contaminate what you're trying to determine?

cosgroveb 16y ago

Did you just admit to paying for backlinks? Isn't that a good way to get penalized in search rankings by Google?

digitaltothem 16y ago

OK, maybe you should Google "farmer update" and read a bit about that. Then check your backlinks. I could not find those 500 backlinks you bought. All I can see are 59 external links from 3 unique domains. So what have you done with them them when you got them?

tluyben2 16y ago

Hmm. What's nice about this; there are thousands of these kinds of posts online and many without affiliate links hooked up :)

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naner 16y ago

Yes this is exactly what the world needs. More websites with garbage content. You can build something small and useful, you know.

yeahsure 16y ago
In my -very limited- experience, the best way to make money with AdSense and/or Amazon is by actually making garbage websites. Nothing better to make a visitor click on an ad than a fugly website.

franksinatra2 16y ago

Why does this belong on HN again?