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> if you don't block Gab, there are a lot of instances that don't want to talk to you. Modern day witch hunts. (I'm not defending gab, or promoting it) However

by monksy 6y ago

> if you don't block Gab, there are a lot of instances that don't want to talk to you. Modern day witch hunts. (I'm not defending gab, or promoting it) However, these guilt by association hunts are irritating.

dgzl 6y ago
You mean calling all conservatives and Republicans racists, Nazis and fascists doesn't make sense?
- realmod 6y ago
  Gab is a legit nazi/white-supremacist site. You trying to twist it to an attack on republicans/conservatives is laughable, unless you think that they are somehow synonymous.
  - dgzl 6y ago
    I'll admit I don't know anything about Gab, but I'm not picking up "nazi/white supremacist site" from their storefront. https://gab.com/ https://gab.com/ Regardless, it's embarrassing how careless the political-left, whatever you want to call them, carelessly use the terms nazi, racist, white supremacist, etc.
Natanael_L 6y ago
Sometimes drastic actions like this is the only way to maintain high quality
berkes 6y ago
That is one way of looking at it. But it really depends on the intention behind such a block. The other way to look at it, just as valid, is for an admin to protect her(or his) "citizens", the people on her instance. If you intended an instance to be a safe-haven, you don't want people being able to raise mobs to harass people on your instance. Hence, you want to block instances that allow such behaviour. But, you also want to avoid accidental "retweets" (boosts), replies and whatnot to reach your instance. So you want a thick layer of insulation: not just blocking one "bad" instance, but blocking the instances that interact with that "bad" instance as well. There are probably technical means to get such an insulation, but neither Activity-Pub nor mastodon has these in place. So being liberal in blocks is a pragmatic means to keep your instance a really safe and happy place. (Do note that you might not need such a safe place -I don't- but people with trauma's, insecurities, issues, or just a wish for a safe and happy place might. And it being federated allows for admins to create such a place. A place where you can be a furry-amongst furries, or a victim amongst a supporting community).

by monksy 6y ago

dgzl 6y ago

You mean calling all conservatives and Republicans racists, Nazis and fascists doesn't make sense?

realmod 6y ago
Gab is a legit nazi/white-supremacist site. You trying to twist it to an attack on republicans/conservatives is laughable, unless you think that they are somehow synonymous.
- dgzl 6y ago
  I'll admit I don't know anything about Gab, but I'm not picking up "nazi/white supremacist site" from their storefront. https://gab.com/ https://gab.com/ Regardless, it's embarrassing how careless the political-left, whatever you want to call them, carelessly use the terms nazi, racist, white supremacist, etc.

Natanael_L 6y ago

Sometimes drastic actions like this is the only way to maintain high quality

berkes 6y ago

That is one way of looking at it. But it really depends on the intention behind such a block. The other way to look at it, just as valid, is for an admin to protect her(or his) "citizens", the people on her instance. If you intended an instance to be a safe-haven, you don't want people being able to raise mobs to harass people on your instance. Hence, you want to block instances that allow such behaviour. But, you also want to avoid accidental "retweets" (boosts), replies and whatnot to reach your instance. So you want a thick layer of insulation: not just blocking one "bad" instance, but blocking the instances that interact with that "bad" instance as well. There are probably technical means to get such an insulation, but neither Activity-Pub nor mastodon has these in place. So being liberal in blocks is a pragmatic means to keep your instance a really safe and happy place. (Do note that you might not need such a safe place -I don't- but people with trauma's, insecurities, issues, or just a wish for a safe and happy place might. And it being federated allows for admins to create such a place. A place where you can be a furry-amongst furries, or a victim amongst a supporting community).