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> Apple is far from the worst of it. But there are some very disturbing trends in tech and the world that warrant our skepticism Well we can agree on that. I a

> Apple is far from the worst of it. But there are some very disturbing trends in tech and the world that warrant our skepticism Well we can agree on that. I am basically speaking against the reductive argument “big corporation = bad.“ Apple does good things and Apple does bad things. On balance I think they do more good than bad. We can have a debate about that. But we can’t debate if the opposition just thinks big corporation = bad and no freedom. I chose Apple because that is the company that started this discussion.

alexashka 6y ago
> Take Apple: their entire business model is reliant upon the government never waking up to enforcing open standards and protocols to ensure consumers get hardware-agnostic, operating system-agnostic, service-provider agnostic, company-agnostic tools and services, which is what everyone would agree we want, except the sociopaths who value profit over humanity and run these corporations. Did you read this and the only conclusion you came away with, is big corporation = bad? Feel free to address what's actually been said, rather presenting a straw man. -- Let me clarify why big corporation = bad is a straw man because I suspect some uneducated people may take your position seriously. Big corporation = bad is in fact a truism, if the government that's supposed to regulate corporations, is not doing their job. This is political science 101. There are people far more educated and likely smarter than you and I who don't consider USA a functioning democracy. Noam Chomsky considers USA a plutocracy. Have you studied this matter and have rebuttals to numerous arguments that he has presented to support his case?
- WoodenChair 6y ago
  > Let me clarify why big corporation = bad is a straw man because I'm suspect some uneducated people may take your position seriously. > There are people far more educated and likely smarter than you and I who don't consider USA a functioning democracy. You may have some good points, but your level of vitriol and overall tone really detracts from them. From the beginning where I pointed out your hyperbole, to your most recent comment where you're effectively calling people dumb and uneducated. If I need political science 101, then you need debate 101.

alexashka 6y ago

> Take Apple: their entire business model is reliant upon the government never waking up to enforcing open standards and protocols to ensure consumers get hardware-agnostic, operating system-agnostic, service-provider agnostic, company-agnostic tools and services, which is what everyone would agree we want, except the sociopaths who value profit over humanity and run these corporations. Did you read this and the only conclusion you came away with, is big corporation = bad? Feel free to address what's actually been said, rather presenting a straw man. -- Let me clarify why big corporation = bad is a straw man because I suspect some uneducated people may take your position seriously. Big corporation = bad is in fact a truism, if the government that's supposed to regulate corporations, is not doing their job. This is political science 101. There are people far more educated and likely smarter than you and I who don't consider USA a functioning democracy. Noam Chomsky considers USA a plutocracy. Have you studied this matter and have rebuttals to numerous arguments that he has presented to support his case?

WoodenChair 6y ago
> Let me clarify why big corporation = bad is a straw man because I'm suspect some uneducated people may take your position seriously. > There are people far more educated and likely smarter than you and I who don't consider USA a functioning democracy. You may have some good points, but your level of vitriol and overall tone really detracts from them. From the beginning where I pointed out your hyperbole, to your most recent comment where you're effectively calling people dumb and uneducated. If I need political science 101, then you need debate 101.