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People see what catches their attention. Some people would go there and read articles about gay women being attacked for choosing whom they took on as sexual p

by nullc 6y ago

People see what catches their attention. Some people would go there and read articles about gay women being attacked for choosing whom they took on as sexual partners. (I found it quite surprising and extremely rapey that anyone would consider it appropriate to be critical of anyone for choosing their consenting sexual partners however they like-- but it happens sometimes.) Or read about people being displaced from scholarships because the top spots in track in their community were held by hormonally advantaged persons. Or learn about cases where tomboyish young women were told that they were actually men because they were interested in science or sports. Personally, I find it too easy to be extremely self righteous in ethical proclamations if I never even get exposed to the corner cases where there can be a truly difficult conflict of rights. Now-- taking fringe events like the above examples and exaggerating them as some kind of endemic phenomena absolutely can fuel hate. It isn't always an easy line to walk.

saltminer 6y ago
Trans people were the subject of a great many, if not most of the posts on GC for the past few months I've paid attention to the sub. GC is a radical feminist hangout, as in SCUM Manifesto "men are the root of all evil and must be exterminated to liberate women"-flavor radical feminism, which lends itself to trans exclusion quite easily since you just have to view trans women as men for them to become evil fetishizers who want to become women for their own pleasure (this also allows them to pity trans men since they become women who were tricked into becoming a man for social reasons instead of acknowledging that gender dysphoria is real). Trans stuff was certainly not the only thing they talked about, but it was the most common, and trans posts tended to have the most discussion.
- oska 6y ago
  > you just have to view trans women as men Men who 'identify' as women are still men (i.e. adult males). This is a biological reality that the vast majority of the population understands. Promoting an ideological dogma such as "trans women are women" only proves you are an ideologue who thinks repeated chants can somehow deny reality. But no, classifying men as men is not a 'view', it is describing biological reality.

by nullc 6y ago

saltminer 6y ago

Trans people were the subject of a great many, if not most of the posts on GC for the past few months I've paid attention to the sub. GC is a radical feminist hangout, as in SCUM Manifesto "men are the root of all evil and must be exterminated to liberate women"-flavor radical feminism, which lends itself to trans exclusion quite easily since you just have to view trans women as men for them to become evil fetishizers who want to become women for their own pleasure (this also allows them to pity trans men since they become women who were tricked into becoming a man for social reasons instead of acknowledging that gender dysphoria is real). Trans stuff was certainly not the only thing they talked about, but it was the most common, and trans posts tended to have the most discussion.

oska 6y ago
> you just have to view trans women as men Men who 'identify' as women are still men (i.e. adult males). This is a biological reality that the vast majority of the population understands. Promoting an ideological dogma such as "trans women are women" only proves you are an ideologue who thinks repeated chants can somehow deny reality. But no, classifying men as men is not a 'view', it is describing biological reality.