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It's very sad how many leftist are cheering on the censorship. Forcible silencing of opposing views is a central tenant of actual fascism (not the kind of "fas
by skrowl 6y ago
It's very sad how many leftist are cheering on the censorship.
Forcible silencing of opposing views is a central tenant of actual fascism (not the kind of "fascism" that kids on social media accuse people of just for disagreeing with them).
History repeats itself, it would seem. This is a modern day book burning.
- ipnon 6y agoAmericans have a constitutional guarantee to free speech. They do not have a constitutional guarantee to use Reddit. Does that difference matter here?
- floatingatoll 6y agoReddit is not a US government entity, so the US constitutional right to free speech is generally not applicable to discussions of Reddit. The exception is the case where a US government entity controls an account that is a mod of a subreddit, in which case they would be subject to the First Amendment when performing mod duties such as deleting user comments or banning users. This specific case would burden only that user and would not place any additional burden upon the non-government mods or upon Reddit itself or its admins.
- amadeuspagel 6y agoNo it does not matter, and I struggle to understand why anyone would think it does. There's no other context where every criticism of a private company gets countered with the argument that that private company isn't violating the constitution.
- maceurt 6y agoIt matters in that we should not lobby congress to make reddit unban certain subreddits. However, that does not mean we should not criticize reddit for not standing up for freedom of speech. You can't make your whole website based around "open and honest discussion" then ban subreddits where open and honest discussion was happening, but in ways you didn't like.
- afiori 6y agoTo be fair the argument isn't really that TD was where "open and honest" discussion would happen, rather that reddit is politically biased anti-Trump in selectively detecting rule violations.
- zipwitch 6y agoSee the paradox of tolerace for why people might not agree with you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
- chippy 6y agoIf we look at history and the Left then censorship also goes hand in hand with it. The common factor is authoritarianism. Zizek makes a difference in that the left always consider the offender as just brainwashed and potentially redeemable (hence, siberia work prisons) versus the right as irredeemable and non human (hence, death camps).
- himinlomax 6y agoYou're misusing "fascism" as much as the people you oppose. There is a better word for this: totalitarianism.