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also banned gendercritical, which was an extreme left, radical feminist (as in, Valerie Solanas radical feminism) board.

Miner49er 6y ago
Gendercritical was not "extreme left". It was an anti-trans (TERF) subreddit hated by actual leftist subs.
- u320 6y ago
  Just because something is hated by most of the left doesn't make it "not left".
  - abellerose 6y ago
    As a trans person myself. All that subreddit did was target hate towards trans people. Anyone care to elaborate on what else they did with actual proof?
    - nullc 6y ago
      Asking for actual proof now is a bit of a tall bar since the subreddit is no longer accessible!
      - abellerose 6y ago
        Oh I'm sorry that you don't know of https://archive.org/web https://archive.org/web
    - 0BADAC1D 6y ago
      is it hateful to be skeptical of gender?
      - duskwuff 6y ago
        "Skeptical of gender" is a cover phrase for "denying the existence of trans people". So, yes.
        deleted 6y ago
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        empthought 6y ago
        Are you skeptical of the shahada? If you are skeptical of the shahada, does this mean you deny the existence of Muslim people? Are you skeptical of the Nicene creed? If you are skeptical of the Nicene creed, does this mean you deny the existence of Christian people? Are you skeptical of body thetans? If you are skeptical of body thetans, does this mean you deny the existence of Scientologists? Are you skeptical of climate change? If you are skeptical of climate change, does this mean you deny the existence of climatologists?
    - brailsafe 6y ago
      Seems a bit strange that you'd simultaneously ask for proof and expect others to accept your premise as fact without also providing something more substantive than "I'm X so therefore I'm an authority on Y"
- cylon13 6y ago
  Confusion caused by attempting to sort human beliefs in a one-dimensional space strikes again! To be clear I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you or the parent poster, just commenting on the ambiguity.
  - makomk 6y ago
    TERFs falling out of favour with the "actual leftist subs" is also a relatively new thing... they used to be strongly TERF apologist at the very least, if not actively and heavily promoting them in the case of several of the more feminist-aligned ones. Think last few years. This isn't just a Reddit thing either; questioning their ties to the UK's main left-wing political party (which has actually influenced our laws for the worse) used to be way outside the range of acceptable leftism, but has suddenly become a controversial hot topic in the last few months.

Miner49er 6y ago

Gendercritical was not "extreme left". It was an anti-trans (TERF) subreddit hated by actual leftist subs.

u320 6y ago
Just because something is hated by most of the left doesn't make it "not left".
- abellerose 6y ago
  As a trans person myself. All that subreddit did was target hate towards trans people. Anyone care to elaborate on what else they did with actual proof?
  - nullc 6y ago
    Asking for actual proof now is a bit of a tall bar since the subreddit is no longer accessible!
    - abellerose 6y ago
      Oh I'm sorry that you don't know of https://archive.org/web https://archive.org/web
  - 0BADAC1D 6y ago
    is it hateful to be skeptical of gender?
    - duskwuff 6y ago
      "Skeptical of gender" is a cover phrase for "denying the existence of trans people". So, yes.
      - deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
      - empthought 6y ago
        Are you skeptical of the shahada? If you are skeptical of the shahada, does this mean you deny the existence of Muslim people? Are you skeptical of the Nicene creed? If you are skeptical of the Nicene creed, does this mean you deny the existence of Christian people? Are you skeptical of body thetans? If you are skeptical of body thetans, does this mean you deny the existence of Scientologists? Are you skeptical of climate change? If you are skeptical of climate change, does this mean you deny the existence of climatologists?
  - brailsafe 6y ago
    Seems a bit strange that you'd simultaneously ask for proof and expect others to accept your premise as fact without also providing something more substantive than "I'm X so therefore I'm an authority on Y"
cylon13 6y ago
Confusion caused by attempting to sort human beliefs in a one-dimensional space strikes again! To be clear I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you or the parent poster, just commenting on the ambiguity.
- makomk 6y ago
  TERFs falling out of favour with the "actual leftist subs" is also a relatively new thing... they used to be strongly TERF apologist at the very least, if not actively and heavily promoting them in the case of several of the more feminist-aligned ones. Think last few years. This isn't just a Reddit thing either; questioning their ties to the UK's main left-wing political party (which has actually influenced our laws for the worse) used to be way outside the range of acceptable leftism, but has suddenly become a controversial hot topic in the last few months.