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How many of those 81% are willing to delete facebook, messenger and instagram though?

simonh 6y ago
Probably very few if that’s what their friends use, but that doesn’t mean they don’t resent it. A billion people might use Facebook, but 1.3 billion use iMessage. I think this is a significant risk for services that don’t respect user privacy.
- parthdesai 6y ago
  I call bullshit on more people using iMessage than any of facebook related services. In this case, I feel like you've a very North American point of view. Majority people who have a smart phone has one of fb/whatsapp/instagram accounts, while iPhones don't even make up for the majority of market share when it comes to smartphone.
  - simonh 6y ago
    Huh, that's interesting. I'm a Brit with a Chinese wife and spend a lot of time over there as well, so I'd hardly call my views America centric. There are a dozen countries I've spent more time in than the USA. It is possible I have a geographic bias, Facebook is barely a thing in China.
    - parthdesai 6y ago
      But China is an exception. This link says Whatsapp has 1.5 billion active users! https://www.businessofapps.com/data/whatsapp-statistics/ https://www.businessofapps.com/data/whatsapp-statistics/
prewett 6y ago
That's a bad metric. I find Facebook a privacy disaster (and user hostile and i am less happy when I use it). But am I willing to delete it? No, because if I meet someone I can friend them on FB later, and it's my only means of communication for some people. If a better communications network were available I would switch, but since there isn't, I can't.
- parthdesai 6y ago
  There you go, you find it to be a disaster but you still find value in it. It's benefits outweigh the concerns you've. IMO it's actually a metric that shows how many people are actually willing to give it up for the sake of privacy.
ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
How does having these apps on my phone hurt my privacy?

Probably very few if that’s what their friends use, but that doesn’t mean they don’t resent it. A billion people might use Facebook, but 1.3 billion use iMessage. I think this is a significant risk for services that don’t respect user privacy.

parthdesai 6y ago
I call bullshit on more people using iMessage than any of facebook related services. In this case, I feel like you've a very North American point of view. Majority people who have a smart phone has one of fb/whatsapp/instagram accounts, while iPhones don't even make up for the majority of market share when it comes to smartphone.
- simonh 6y ago
  Huh, that's interesting. I'm a Brit with a Chinese wife and spend a lot of time over there as well, so I'd hardly call my views America centric. There are a dozen countries I've spent more time in than the USA. It is possible I have a geographic bias, Facebook is barely a thing in China.
  - parthdesai 6y ago
    But China is an exception. This link says Whatsapp has 1.5 billion active users! https://www.businessofapps.com/data/whatsapp-statistics/ https://www.businessofapps.com/data/whatsapp-statistics/

prewett 6y ago

That's a bad metric. I find Facebook a privacy disaster (and user hostile and i am less happy when I use it). But am I willing to delete it? No, because if I meet someone I can friend them on FB later, and it's my only means of communication for some people. If a better communications network were available I would switch, but since there isn't, I can't.

parthdesai 6y ago
There you go, you find it to be a disaster but you still find value in it. It's benefits outweigh the concerns you've. IMO it's actually a metric that shows how many people are actually willing to give it up for the sake of privacy.

ajzinsbwbs 6y ago

How does having these apps on my phone hurt my privacy?