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I'm curious, though, will Apple's own ads require consent? When you open the App Store for the first time, will there be a popup asking for consent to track fo

I'm curious, though, will Apple's own ads require consent? When you open the App Store for the first time, will there be a popup asking for consent to track for ad purposes?

grey-area 6y ago
You can show ads without tracking user behaviour.
- gingerlime 6y ago
  yet Apple also tracks you by default, without asking for consent. It's opt-in by default (which I believe is against the GDPR) https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223
  - swivelmaster 6y ago
    I believe Apple asks for permission after major OS updates.
  - kevincox 6y ago
    Err... opt-in by default isn't opt-in. That is on by default with an opt-out.
ThrustVectoring 6y ago
IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. All they need is to store the device IDs to which they display ads and install apps so that they can attribute app installs to specific advertisements. You're logged into their app store, so you should expect Apple to already know the device ID when they display ads and install apps.
- cromwellian 6y ago
  But I pay for the App Store indirectly through high margin hardware, transaction fees, including the 30% tax, so shouldn’t i be able to turn off Apple’s ad network all together and not let them advertise to me in the App Store by using my purchase history? Funny how privacy invasions are bad and everything should be done on device until Apple starts selling ads and then it’s ok somehow for them to use your behavior/purchase profile.
  - ThrustVectoring 6y ago
    I'm not talking about personalizing ads here, I'm talking about storing who Apple has served ads to so that they can tell advertisers which ads lead to how many app installs.
  - BurritoAlPastor 6y ago
    You can! https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074
    - cromwellian 6y ago
      Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
      - cromwellian 6y ago
        Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
  - kungato 6y ago
    The thing is, you don't get to choose how you pay. You only get tho coose whether you want to pay or not. They can track you and you can not use the service.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  > IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. The entire point of consent is that your opinion doesn't really matter; mine does.

I'm curious, though, will Apple's own ads require consent? When you open the App Store for the first time, will there be a popup asking for consent to track for ad purposes?

grey-area 6y ago

You can show ads without tracking user behaviour.

gingerlime 6y ago
yet Apple also tracks you by default, without asking for consent. It's opt-in by default (which I believe is against the GDPR) https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223
- swivelmaster 6y ago
  I believe Apple asks for permission after major OS updates.
- kevincox 6y ago
  Err... opt-in by default isn't opt-in. That is on by default with an opt-out.

ThrustVectoring 6y ago

IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. All they need is to store the device IDs to which they display ads and install apps so that they can attribute app installs to specific advertisements. You're logged into their app store, so you should expect Apple to already know the device ID when they display ads and install apps.

cromwellian 6y ago
But I pay for the App Store indirectly through high margin hardware, transaction fees, including the 30% tax, so shouldn’t i be able to turn off Apple’s ad network all together and not let them advertise to me in the App Store by using my purchase history? Funny how privacy invasions are bad and everything should be done on device until Apple starts selling ads and then it’s ok somehow for them to use your behavior/purchase profile.
- ThrustVectoring 6y ago
  I'm not talking about personalizing ads here, I'm talking about storing who Apple has served ads to so that they can tell advertisers which ads lead to how many app installs.
- BurritoAlPastor 6y ago
  You can! https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074
  - cromwellian 6y ago
    Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
    - cromwellian 6y ago
      Cool, I didn't know, but doesn't that imply it's a dark pattern? How many users know about this setting? Wouldn't it be better as Opt-In, and let the App Store prompt you when you set up your iPhone "do you want to opt in to interest based advertisin/etc"? When other companies do opt-out, they're usually heavily criticized.
- kungato 6y ago
  The thing is, you don't get to choose how you pay. You only get tho coose whether you want to pay or not. They can track you and you can not use the service.
saagarjha 6y ago
> IMO you've given enough consent by using their app store. The entire point of consent is that your opinion doesn't really matter; mine does.