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Reddit really had a good run as an interesting site, but it's really angling for a FB style consumer ad experience now. I think the final blow will be when they

by shiado 6y ago

Reddit really had a good run as an interesting site, but it's really angling for a FB style consumer ad experience now. I think the final blow will be when they go after porn like tumblr did, then it will die forever. Too bad the alternatives are pretty extremist. I think Dread is really the best one because people who want to buy drugs on the internet aren't there completely for the politics.

fortran77 6y ago
I tried some of the alternatives. I figured if the people I don't like stay in their subgroups, I'm fine. But they don't. They invade every group. I don't want to see extremely racist posts in my "anti-bicyclist" group (for example). They'll take every post and make it about race.
- linuxftw 6y ago
  > They'll take every post and make it about race. It's called trolling. As long as you're feeding the trolls, they keep trolling. Do other language forums have these race problems? Are English speaking sites being targeted by nefarious actors or botnets with racist remarks for some ulterior purpose? It seems to me that posting racist things on the internet may have been weaponized.
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - jbob2000 6y ago
    English has a context problem, in that you need to know a little bit about the person to truly understand their communications. Mix this with the Anglosphere's culture of humor and sarcasm, and I see how someone communicating anonymously can have their comments read in differing ways.
WorkingDead 6y ago
Hobby specific communities were a big attraction point to reddit, but even those have devolved into heavy censorship. There isnt really a good draw to the site anymore.
- cryptoz 6y ago
  IMO the 'heavy censorship' is the only thing keeping hobby communities going well. Without that moderation, you'd be trying to learn about something fun like knitting but you'd see a bunch of hateful content, like racist MAGA stuff instead of knitting for example. Having the moderation get stronger is the only way to save hobby subreddits IMO.
  - symlinkk 6y ago
    No you wouldn’t, that’s the whole point of upvotes and downvotes. The community gets to decide what’s popular. Not moderators.
    - cryptoz 6y ago
      What do you mean, "wouldn't"? This isn't a hypothetical, this is the reality of today. And yes, it is a current problem. > that’s the whole point of upvotes and downvotes. No it's not. In fact the reddit rules / guidelines specifically state that is not what upvotes and downvotes are for. It's specifically called out for the moderators to deal with it through user reports, not through votes. Plus, lots of downvotes does nothing to remove hateful content. The content is still there! Only the moderators can remove hateful content.
    - llbeansandrice 6y ago
      >The community gets to decide what’s popular This is false. The piece of the machine that really decides is reddit's algorithm and how people consume content. It also doesn't take into account how communities can drastically change in an instant if a post gets brigaded. Suddenly it's not "your community" that's voting and deciding. What happens is the most easily digestible content that appeals to the most people gets upvoted the most. Saying "the community decides" is at best naive.

by shiado 6y ago

fortran77 6y ago

I tried some of the alternatives. I figured if the people I don't like stay in their subgroups, I'm fine. But they don't. They invade every group. I don't want to see extremely racist posts in my "anti-bicyclist" group (for example). They'll take every post and make it about race.

linuxftw 6y ago
> They'll take every post and make it about race. It's called trolling. As long as you're feeding the trolls, they keep trolling. Do other language forums have these race problems? Are English speaking sites being targeted by nefarious actors or botnets with racist remarks for some ulterior purpose? It seems to me that posting racist things on the internet may have been weaponized.
- deleted 6y ago
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- jbob2000 6y ago
  English has a context problem, in that you need to know a little bit about the person to truly understand their communications. Mix this with the Anglosphere's culture of humor and sarcasm, and I see how someone communicating anonymously can have their comments read in differing ways.

WorkingDead 6y ago

Hobby specific communities were a big attraction point to reddit, but even those have devolved into heavy censorship. There isnt really a good draw to the site anymore.

cryptoz 6y ago
IMO the 'heavy censorship' is the only thing keeping hobby communities going well. Without that moderation, you'd be trying to learn about something fun like knitting but you'd see a bunch of hateful content, like racist MAGA stuff instead of knitting for example. Having the moderation get stronger is the only way to save hobby subreddits IMO.
- symlinkk 6y ago
  No you wouldn’t, that’s the whole point of upvotes and downvotes. The community gets to decide what’s popular. Not moderators.
  - cryptoz 6y ago
    What do you mean, "wouldn't"? This isn't a hypothetical, this is the reality of today. And yes, it is a current problem. > that’s the whole point of upvotes and downvotes. No it's not. In fact the reddit rules / guidelines specifically state that is not what upvotes and downvotes are for. It's specifically called out for the moderators to deal with it through user reports, not through votes. Plus, lots of downvotes does nothing to remove hateful content. The content is still there! Only the moderators can remove hateful content.
  - llbeansandrice 6y ago
    >The community gets to decide what’s popular This is false. The piece of the machine that really decides is reddit's algorithm and how people consume content. It also doesn't take into account how communities can drastically change in an instant if a post gets brigaded. Suddenly it's not "your community" that's voting and deciding. What happens is the most easily digestible content that appeals to the most people gets upvoted the most. Saying "the community decides" is at best naive.