> I always say to them that this is not for everbody, you are banging your head against the wall most of the time This is what I tell people who want to get in

> I always say to them that this is not for everbody, you are banging your head against the wall most of the time This is what I tell people who want to get into bench science. It's funny, because I find programming to be an escape from the 'head-banging' of science. At least when I get stuck debugging a programming issue, I know that there is a fix, and I'll eventually find it. Compare that to science, where you might bang your head against the wall for weeks, months, or years, only to later find out that the problem simply isn't tractable, or that the problem had nothing to do with you at all.