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Programmers have a bad reputation with Feminists. Hanging out in any online Feminist space is very illuminating - they have gone on many dates with people who d

Programmers have a bad reputation with Feminists. Hanging out in any online Feminist space is very illuminating - they have gone on many dates with people who do what we do, and they're contemptuously familiar with "us" as a class. If you're trying to date in a tech city, I think you pretty much have to do this - there are a lot of "tech bro" memes out there for you to step in on the first date. This prejudice seems largely absent from health-care workers, for what it's worth. (Nurses and nurse-adjacent professionals seem to think of doctors as much bigger jerks and sexists than programmers, whereas I think a lot of creative professionals now view programmers and various kinds of scientist / engineer as pretty much the ur-sexist-jerk).

cloudier 6y ago
I mean, it’s not hard to see why feminists think that: just read any thread on Hacker News about gender.
JSavageOne 6y ago
What did the programmers commonly do that these females found revolting? I've never lived in SF so maybe it's different there, but in my experience in the industry the "tech bro" thing is a complete myth. Most software engineers are just quiet nerds/geeks, mostly Asian + Indian, and are the absolute last thing from being "bros" (unless the word "bro" has been redefined and I never got the memo).
- automatoney 6y ago
  I'd say it's definitely very possible to be a quiet nerd who also has not the best attitude towards women so I don't think the bad rep just comes from the "bro" side of things. As an aside, calling women 'females' is definitely something that can set off alarms cause it resembles the kind of language that certain sexist men use. Not saying that using it makes someone sexist, but that it can make someone sound like other people who are.
  - JSavageOne 6y ago
    > it's definitely very possible to be a quiet nerd who also has not the best attitude towards women Of course, but that doesn't mean that "sexist quiet software engineer nerd" is a common personality type. In my experience the "quiet nerds" tend to be the most kind people. Also I've found in America that most women seem to prefer dating outgoing men, so I'd guess that most of these women aren't dating these "quiet nerds". > As an aside, calling women 'females' is definitely something that can set off alarms Never realized the word had that connotation to some people. Sounds overly sensitive, but I'll use "women" if that's preferred.

cloudier 6y ago

I mean, it’s not hard to see why feminists think that: just read any thread on Hacker News about gender.

JSavageOne 6y ago

What did the programmers commonly do that these females found revolting? I've never lived in SF so maybe it's different there, but in my experience in the industry the "tech bro" thing is a complete myth. Most software engineers are just quiet nerds/geeks, mostly Asian + Indian, and are the absolute last thing from being "bros" (unless the word "bro" has been redefined and I never got the memo).

automatoney 6y ago
I'd say it's definitely very possible to be a quiet nerd who also has not the best attitude towards women so I don't think the bad rep just comes from the "bro" side of things. As an aside, calling women 'females' is definitely something that can set off alarms cause it resembles the kind of language that certain sexist men use. Not saying that using it makes someone sexist, but that it can make someone sound like other people who are.
- JSavageOne 6y ago
  > it's definitely very possible to be a quiet nerd who also has not the best attitude towards women Of course, but that doesn't mean that "sexist quiet software engineer nerd" is a common personality type. In my experience the "quiet nerds" tend to be the most kind people. Also I've found in America that most women seem to prefer dating outgoing men, so I'd guess that most of these women aren't dating these "quiet nerds". > As an aside, calling women 'females' is definitely something that can set off alarms Never realized the word had that connotation to some people. Sounds overly sensitive, but I'll use "women" if that's preferred.