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r/jailbait has had a long and storied history on reddit. It's non-nude, and certainly a lot tamer than stuff you can find with a GIS. It's a grey area morally

r/jailbait has had a long and storied history on reddit. It's non-nude, and certainly a lot tamer than stuff you can find with a GIS. It's a grey area morally, but it's legal. violentacres is the mod of quite a few raunchy subreddits [1], and jailbait is one of the more kosher ones. He works closely with the admins to keep illegal content out, and apparently has a fairly good working relationship with them. Hell, there's more illegal content on r/trees than any of his subreddits. Reddit's made it pretty clear that they don't intend to censor legal discourse, although it is their right to do so. Censoring r/jailbait might make some people, or even most people happy, but it's a slippery slope. Once the admins start deciding which legal (non-spam) speech is and isn't allowed, it ceases to be a website whose content is dictated by the community. Personally, I'd like to see http://www.reddit.com/r/niggers http://www.reddit.com/r/niggers gone, but I don't want the admins stepping in and deciding what is and isn't acceptable. Short of illegal content, they leave it to the mods to decide what they want in their respective subreddits. I'm fine with that system. [1]http://www.reddit.com/r/violentacrez/comments/apofz/reddits_i_moderate_january_2010/ http://www.reddit.com/r/violentacrez/comments/apofz/reddits_...

marian12 16y ago
Hmmm... I had a look now at 3-4 entries in /r/linkbait, and it contains erotic images of underaged girls. Yes, technically it is non-nude, but if a girl has a barely-visible panties, it doesn't feel kosher to me. I must admit that I wasn't aware reddit went so close to underaged porn.
- mbenjaminsmith 16y ago
  I'm not a prude in the slightest degree but I agree with you. Those girls are very young and the pics are sexual, clothed or not. Made me feel creepy. That kind of activity is just asking for trouble.
cypherpunks 16y ago
I sort of see the point, but reddit is dangerously close to dying. Already, it's a hotbed of misogyny and bigoted atheism. At the moment, there is one link to actual information on the front page (Seth Lloyd lecture), and one link to a new movement (BoA). Aside from that, everything is imgur, video games, videos, self., or other stupid junk. You need to be increasingly careful not to click on porn by accident. Declines in on-line communities tend to be sort of exponential. Stupid people come. Content gets stupid. Smart people leave. Stupid people leave. Ghost town. If reddit doesn't engage in some sort of censorship, I'm not sure how long it will continue.
- redthrowaway 16y ago
  It's already growing exponentially. Unsubscribing from the larger subreddits solves most of the issues you address. The fact is, there is a preponderance of pictures, videos, and gaming news because that's what the majority of users want to see. You may not like it, but that hardly means it's dying. Facebook isn't limited to the Ivy League anymore, and there's a ton of crap on it. Yet it seems to be doing alright. Reddit is no longer a small, early adopter community. Censorship of the form you seem to propose, that is, getting rid of the stuff you don't like, would be suicidal. They're growing because more and more people are finding things they like on it. Seriously though, subreddits. You'd find a huge difference in the level of discourse in any of the following: http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/ http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/ http://www.reddit.com/r/DepthHub/ http://www.reddit.com/r/DepthHub/ http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/ http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/ http://www.reddit.com/r/coding/ http://www.reddit.com/r/coding/ There's dozens more. Yes, pics, funny, gaming, atheism, politics, wtf, worldnews, and a bunch of the other hotbeds of stupidity get the lion's share of the traffic, but there's still tons of great content on reddit. There's far more great content on reddit than HN, simply by virtue of size and diversity. You just have to look for it.
  - jgrahamc 16y ago
    "Censorship of the form you seem to propose" It would not be censorship for Reddit to do this. Censorship is something that a powerful body does (such as a government). I disagree that removing jailbait would cause Reddit to die. For example, Netflix does not provide pornography and is not dying because of that.

marian12 16y ago

Hmmm... I had a look now at 3-4 entries in /r/linkbait, and it contains erotic images of underaged girls. Yes, technically it is non-nude, but if a girl has a barely-visible panties, it doesn't feel kosher to me. I must admit that I wasn't aware reddit went so close to underaged porn.

mbenjaminsmith 16y ago
I'm not a prude in the slightest degree but I agree with you. Those girls are very young and the pics are sexual, clothed or not. Made me feel creepy. That kind of activity is just asking for trouble.

cypherpunks 16y ago

I sort of see the point, but reddit is dangerously close to dying. Already, it's a hotbed of misogyny and bigoted atheism. At the moment, there is one link to actual information on the front page (Seth Lloyd lecture), and one link to a new movement (BoA). Aside from that, everything is imgur, video games, videos, self., or other stupid junk. You need to be increasingly careful not to click on porn by accident. Declines in on-line communities tend to be sort of exponential. Stupid people come. Content gets stupid. Smart people leave. Stupid people leave. Ghost town. If reddit doesn't engage in some sort of censorship, I'm not sure how long it will continue.

redthrowaway 16y ago
It's already growing exponentially. Unsubscribing from the larger subreddits solves most of the issues you address. The fact is, there is a preponderance of pictures, videos, and gaming news because that's what the majority of users want to see. You may not like it, but that hardly means it's dying. Facebook isn't limited to the Ivy League anymore, and there's a ton of crap on it. Yet it seems to be doing alright. Reddit is no longer a small, early adopter community. Censorship of the form you seem to propose, that is, getting rid of the stuff you don't like, would be suicidal. They're growing because more and more people are finding things they like on it. Seriously though, subreddits. You'd find a huge difference in the level of discourse in any of the following: http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/ http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/ http://www.reddit.com/r/DepthHub/ http://www.reddit.com/r/DepthHub/ http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/ http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/ http://www.reddit.com/r/coding/ http://www.reddit.com/r/coding/ There's dozens more. Yes, pics, funny, gaming, atheism, politics, wtf, worldnews, and a bunch of the other hotbeds of stupidity get the lion's share of the traffic, but there's still tons of great content on reddit. There's far more great content on reddit than HN, simply by virtue of size and diversity. You just have to look for it.
- jgrahamc 16y ago
  "Censorship of the form you seem to propose" It would not be censorship for Reddit to do this. Censorship is something that a powerful body does (such as a government). I disagree that removing jailbait would cause Reddit to die. For example, Netflix does not provide pornography and is not dying because of that.