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I'd quite like HN to be completely free of anything to do with sexism, racism and politics.

davidgerard 6y ago
I'd quite like tech to be completely free of anything to do with sexism, racism and politics, but it turns out it's part of the world.
- seesawtron 6y ago
  I'd quite like the world to be free of hate, narrow-mindedness and biases, but it turns out wishful thinking does almost no good.
- YetAnotherNick 6y ago
  The thing is discussing it easily ruins the mood of feeling productive when opening HN. Also the benefit of discussing the same mindless discussion over internet where you already know the points of both sides are minimal in my opinion. There are better ways to spend time to benefit the minorities/females than discussing it here.
  - dredmorbius 6y ago
    Why does that discussion "ruin" the mood? Who is doing the ruining? Who benefits by lack of discussion? (My view is that silence on contentious issues benefits the status quo.)
Gunax 6y ago
Others might want HN to be open to tough issues. I know this is controversial, but it's hard (perhaps impossible) to discuss something controversial without either: 1. adopting groupthink/wrongthink patterns 2. making some group uncomfortable 3. limiting the topics that can be discussed
- jacknews 6y ago
  I'm no fan of censorship but even so I vote for 3. This is hacker news, so these topics should only be aired where they intersect, and are in the context of, the tech world. IMHO.
  - Gunax 6y ago
    Sure, but it's going to come up whenever sexism comes up, which is often. I guess I feel very conflicted here. We have people who--riggt or wrong--think that there is at least partial biological explaination behind this. Then we have women who are saying that this opinion is so toxic that it makes them feel uncomfortable\unwelcome. There is no solution that will make everyone happy. Either we must accept that there will be views aired that are uncomfortable (you don't have the right to not be discomforted), or we restrict the opinions that can be aired (you don't have the right to say what you really think).
  - reroute1 6y ago
    Why don't you just not read it? Problem solved.
curation 6y ago
Me too. Been waiting for it for a long time.

I'd quite like tech to be completely free of anything to do with sexism, racism and politics, but it turns out it's part of the world.

seesawtron 6y ago
I'd quite like the world to be free of hate, narrow-mindedness and biases, but it turns out wishful thinking does almost no good.
YetAnotherNick 6y ago
The thing is discussing it easily ruins the mood of feeling productive when opening HN. Also the benefit of discussing the same mindless discussion over internet where you already know the points of both sides are minimal in my opinion. There are better ways to spend time to benefit the minorities/females than discussing it here.
- dredmorbius 6y ago
  Why does that discussion "ruin" the mood? Who is doing the ruining? Who benefits by lack of discussion? (My view is that silence on contentious issues benefits the status quo.)

Gunax 6y ago

Others might want HN to be open to tough issues. I know this is controversial, but it's hard (perhaps impossible) to discuss something controversial without either: 1. adopting groupthink/wrongthink patterns 2. making some group uncomfortable 3. limiting the topics that can be discussed

jacknews 6y ago
I'm no fan of censorship but even so I vote for 3. This is hacker news, so these topics should only be aired where they intersect, and are in the context of, the tech world. IMHO.
- Gunax 6y ago
  Sure, but it's going to come up whenever sexism comes up, which is often. I guess I feel very conflicted here. We have people who--riggt or wrong--think that there is at least partial biological explaination behind this. Then we have women who are saying that this opinion is so toxic that it makes them feel uncomfortable\unwelcome. There is no solution that will make everyone happy. Either we must accept that there will be views aired that are uncomfortable (you don't have the right to not be discomforted), or we restrict the opinions that can be aired (you don't have the right to say what you really think).
- reroute1 6y ago
  Why don't you just not read it? Problem solved.

curation 6y ago

Me too. Been waiting for it for a long time.