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So what's funny to me is how Oracle here is bending over backwards not to give Google credit for pretty much anything. It's actually hilarious. I laughed at Ec
by cletus 6y ago
So what's funny to me is how Oracle here is bending over backwards not to give Google credit for pretty much anything. It's actually hilarious.
I laughed at Eclipse Collections. What? No mention of Guava, even though it's used way more. It's practically part of Oracle's copyrighted Java API.
but of course the most hilarious omission is, of course, Android. And you can say "blah blah Dalvik VM blah blah" but... it's Java.
And I have to say a word about IntelliJ (and Jetbrains IDEs more generally). They're the standard by which I judge every other IDE. To put it another way, they're the reason every other IDE makes me sad. Even VS Code.
- pjmlp 6y agoI have used Java on and off since 1998, am yet to ever touch Guava. Android Java is Google's J++, with its half baked Java 8 compatibility, and deserves the same treatment that J++ once had.
- suyash 6y agoAndroid Java != Java so no credit needed to be given. Though Google does make Java contributions in other libraries and projects which is very welcome by the community!
- pjmlp 6y agoTheir wrongdoings with Android to the Java eco-system are more harmful than whatever contributions they might have done.
- misja111 6y agoGuava was really popular 10 years ago, after that other libraries have caught up, not to mention Java itself. And IntelliJ was once indeed the standard but is slowly becoming the new Eclipse because it's so bloated. I recently tried VS Code and I was amazed how fast and lean it was, I am definitely switching.
- pron 6y agoAndroid isn't Java. Java is a specification of a platform (a set of them, really) and Android doesn't come near to conforming to it.