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There's an irony that a western country, Germany, moved Lenin to Russia in 1917, which was a significant factor in the revolution that followed.
by shusson 6y ago
There's an irony that a western country, Germany, moved Lenin to Russia in 1917, which was a significant factor in the revolution that followed.
- danjac 6y agoGermany was not really a democracy in 1917. It was nominally a constitutional monarchy under the Kaiser, with a very limited parliamentary system elected by male sufferage that could pass budgets but little else. By the end of the war - before the Kaiser abdicated - it was pretty much a defacto military dictatorship run by the General Staff.
- shusson 6y agoYes my mistake, corrected.
- koheripbal 6y agoAn elected parliament that controls the budget is actually a very core part of democracy. Power flows from budgets.
- heavenlyblue 6y agoWell, yesterday you’ve controlled the budged, and today you were killed by our special police.
- fsagx 6y agoHow is that ironic? It was a deliberate strategy to destabilize Russia and undermine their war effort. It worked.
- toyg 6y agoI guess the irony is that, in the long run, it turned Russia into an even stronger competitor.
- qbaqbaqba 6y agoIt's hard to say how Russia would look like without the Revolution. It could be democratic.
- bzb3 6y agoI don't know why everybody assumes the Russian populace doesn't like Putin.
- vetinari 6y agoSeeing how and where Kerenskij directed Russia after the february coup, we can safely say that Russia would be non-existent. Just like Ottoman or Habsburg empires, that disappeared at the same time.
- qbaqbaqba 6y agoBut Russia would be on the winning side. But that's just some alternative history.