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These type of posts are now starting to sound like propaganda. Just emotional catharsis of some sort. There are plenty of large companies on this planet. Why

These type of posts are now starting to sound like propaganda. Just emotional catharsis of some sort. There are plenty of large companies on this planet. Why do you focus on Google? and why do we see these posts frequently making it to top ten of hacker news?

skinkestek 6y ago
> Why do you focus on Google? Because there's no thing one hate as much as the one that one loved and that then betrayed you I guess. (Note: I neither loved Google nor hate it now but I'll go as far as admit to being a big fan earlier on and really disappointed now.) > and why do we see these posts frequently making it to top ten of hacker news? Because so many of us agree with them. (FTR, I'm an oldtimer with a fresh account.)
quonn 6y ago
Yeah, but there are, for example, at least five car companies at the top end that have kind of equally attractive products and 20 others. But in tech it‘s different. Additionally, I don‘t think anyone working in the tech industry should want a future where a few large companies control everything. In the long run, this is not in our interest.
FridgeSeal 6y ago
I agree, a lot of very large companies should be broken up. At the same time, why can't someone's blog focus on one? Why can't a given company be held under the spotlight for something? Being asked to criticise all of them, or none of them seems like an unfair criticism. This post being about google doesn't preclude another one being written about all companies, or Facebook, or amazon, etc etc. Getting the ball rolling on even one of these companies would be a good start, so I don't see the harm in people writing posts focusing on one. > and why do we see these posts frequently making it to top ten of hacker news? Presumably because a lot of people agree with the proposition?
kryptiskt 6y ago
You should be grateful, the threat of antitrust action is literally the only thing that is slowing down Google turning Android and Chrome into their own private internet. It's not enough, so far, so the authorities really needs to step up their game. And the idea that you can't name and shame a trillion dollar corporation because there are other big companies around is pernicious. The idea is mistaken, no one should escape scrutiny because there are other bad actors. And if Google isn't big enough to be singled out, who is?
kevingadd 6y ago
The post literally mentions other big tech companies that are similar candidates for enforcement.
jdub 6y ago
One of Tim's previous posts was about breaking up AWS.
pwinnski 6y ago
Google is second on Bray's list, since he started with his alma mater, Amazon. I'm guessing either Facebook or Apple is next, but we'll see. I'm guessing posts like these are popular because many of us agree that it's well past time for an antitrust department to take action against companies like Amazon, Google, Apple, Facebook, and others.

skinkestek 6y ago

> Why do you focus on Google? Because there's no thing one hate as much as the one that one loved and that then betrayed you I guess. (Note: I neither loved Google nor hate it now but I'll go as far as admit to being a big fan earlier on and really disappointed now.) > and why do we see these posts frequently making it to top ten of hacker news? Because so many of us agree with them. (FTR, I'm an oldtimer with a fresh account.)

quonn 6y ago

Yeah, but there are, for example, at least five car companies at the top end that have kind of equally attractive products and 20 others. But in tech it‘s different. Additionally, I don‘t think anyone working in the tech industry should want a future where a few large companies control everything. In the long run, this is not in our interest.

FridgeSeal 6y ago

I agree, a lot of very large companies should be broken up. At the same time, why can't someone's blog focus on one? Why can't a given company be held under the spotlight for something? Being asked to criticise all of them, or none of them seems like an unfair criticism. This post being about google doesn't preclude another one being written about all companies, or Facebook, or amazon, etc etc. Getting the ball rolling on even one of these companies would be a good start, so I don't see the harm in people writing posts focusing on one. > and why do we see these posts frequently making it to top ten of hacker news? Presumably because a lot of people agree with the proposition?

kryptiskt 6y ago

You should be grateful, the threat of antitrust action is literally the only thing that is slowing down Google turning Android and Chrome into their own private internet. It's not enough, so far, so the authorities really needs to step up their game. And the idea that you can't name and shame a trillion dollar corporation because there are other big companies around is pernicious. The idea is mistaken, no one should escape scrutiny because there are other bad actors. And if Google isn't big enough to be singled out, who is?

kevingadd 6y ago

The post literally mentions other big tech companies that are similar candidates for enforcement.

jdub 6y ago

One of Tim's previous posts was about breaking up AWS.

pwinnski 6y ago

Google is second on Bray's list, since he started with his alma mater, Amazon. I'm guessing either Facebook or Apple is next, but we'll see. I'm guessing posts like these are popular because many of us agree that it's well past time for an antitrust department to take action against companies like Amazon, Google, Apple, Facebook, and others.