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How about America stop poaching the best minds from all other countries and making those countries poorer.

albemuth 6y ago
Overly simplistic comment ignoring personal agency.
zeeone 6y ago
Exactly my thoughts on this as well. The brain and skill drain has reached levels of completely unethical. If someone did the same to America during the great depression 1920-1930, the U.S. would be a shithole country today.
- pnw_hazor 6y ago
  Are not all free countries doing the same thing? There must be a reason the drain seems to be feeding the US. (Notwithstanding that most free countries have more restrictive immigration policies than the US)
0xy 6y ago
This comment is basically "how about America stop competing". If your country isn't competitive for tech or any other worker, then it's a problem with your country. I have zero sympathy for European tech workers who complain about the dramatically lower salaries they receive while they simultaneously vote for giant governments which levy effective tax rates of 50%+ on them. Now that the UK is leaving the EU, the EU is one of the worst places for tech in the world from the perspective of the employee. This only serves to benefit the US, Switzerland, the UK and other countries supporting their industries rather than crushing them with ridiculous regulatory burdens (GDPR and others). If you have brain drain, it's 100% because your country is not competitive.
- randompwd 6y ago
  The tax rates are on the gross salary. Those tax rates help lessen inequality. Europeans aren't complaining about their net income. They're complaining about their gross income. > supporting their industries rather than crushing them with ridiculous regulatory burdens (GDPR and others Ah, I see. This was an irrational rant with 0 critical thinking put in to it. edited to address: > levy effective tax rates of 50%+ on them. Effective is what people actually pay. No software engineer in any European country has an effective tax rate of 50%. With progessive(staggered) tax rates & pension relief, most would end up with ~30-35% tax rate. 50% is charged on money over x, everything below x is at lower rates so your _effective_ tax rate is not 50%.
nine_k 6y ago
Poaching as in offering better life prospects?

Overly simplistic comment ignoring personal agency.

Exactly my thoughts on this as well. The brain and skill drain has reached levels of completely unethical. If someone did the same to America during the great depression 1920-1930, the U.S. would be a shithole country today.

pnw_hazor 6y ago
Are not all free countries doing the same thing? There must be a reason the drain seems to be feeding the US. (Notwithstanding that most free countries have more restrictive immigration policies than the US)

0xy 6y ago

This comment is basically "how about America stop competing". If your country isn't competitive for tech or any other worker, then it's a problem with your country. I have zero sympathy for European tech workers who complain about the dramatically lower salaries they receive while they simultaneously vote for giant governments which levy effective tax rates of 50%+ on them. Now that the UK is leaving the EU, the EU is one of the worst places for tech in the world from the perspective of the employee. This only serves to benefit the US, Switzerland, the UK and other countries supporting their industries rather than crushing them with ridiculous regulatory burdens (GDPR and others). If you have brain drain, it's 100% because your country is not competitive.

randompwd 6y ago
The tax rates are on the gross salary. Those tax rates help lessen inequality. Europeans aren't complaining about their net income. They're complaining about their gross income. > supporting their industries rather than crushing them with ridiculous regulatory burdens (GDPR and others Ah, I see. This was an irrational rant with 0 critical thinking put in to it. edited to address: > levy effective tax rates of 50%+ on them. Effective is what people actually pay. No software engineer in any European country has an effective tax rate of 50%. With progessive(staggered) tax rates & pension relief, most would end up with ~30-35% tax rate. 50% is charged on money over x, everything below x is at lower rates so your _effective_ tax rate is not 50%.

nine_k 6y ago

Poaching as in offering better life prospects?