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I've been seeing an increasing number of people saying covid is more of a neurological disease than anything else. I first started seeing it in regard to the "

I've been seeing an increasing number of people saying covid is more of a neurological disease than anything else. I first started seeing it in regard to the "happy hypoxics" [0], and I've been seeing more and more reports on the neurological effects... [1] This is bad. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/health/happy-hypoxia-pulse-oximeter-trnd-wellness/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/health/happy-hypoxia-pulse-ox... [1] https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-ef...

H8crilA 6y ago
> covid is more of a neurological disease than anything else It seems that there are neurological complications (as well as clotting problems and kidney problems), but let's not forget that this disease primarily turns lungs into chewing gum. I don't think any neurological complication can cause a patient to self-destruct their lungs.
- mrfusion 6y ago
  Well for some people it could damage lungs but chewing gum is an extreme description. 25 percent to 80 percent of people with COVID-19 have such mild cases that they are unaware they have the virus. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-... Beyond that a follow up study done on severe patients with lung damage that showed the damage healed within 2.5 months: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-27359/v1 https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-27359/v1
  - H8crilA 6y ago
    For those that are not "lucky" - chewing gum is pretty accurate, the lungs become completely swollen and filled with liquid and can no longer accommodate any air inside them. Ventilators help a lot because they push this liquid back. Look up coroners' reports on those that don't make it. And yes, most people make it through. This is certainly not a MERS kind of a monster.
  - glandium 6y ago
    Some (a lot?) people unaware they had the virus have later been found to have lung damage.
    - mrfusion 6y ago
      Source?
      - glandium 6y ago
        Google for "silent lung damage covid", you'll find multiple articles with possibly links to studies. IIRC, it came up as early as when people from the Diamond Princess have been studied. BTW: > Beyond that a follow up study done on severe patients with lung damage that showed the damage healed within 2.5 months That's good news. Some weeks ago, medical researchers were afraid the damage might be permanent.
        amyjess 6y ago
        For what it's worth, another good search term to use would be "ground glass opacities".
faitswulff 6y ago
There was a study recently on the neuroinvasiveness of SARS-CoV-2: https://twitter.com/ericsongg/status/1276683771375468546 https://twitter.com/ericsongg/status/1276683771375468546 There's also been evidence that it infects the central nervous system: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7094171/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7094171/ This is a scary disease. To take another example, the flu, AFAIK, is not neuroinvasive and does not cross the blood brain barrier.
ars 6y ago
> is more of a neurological disease The NYT is sensationalizing, this isn't from COVID itself, it's from the sedation. From the same newspaper: https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/nightmares-after-the-i-c-u/ https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/nightmares-after-t...

H8crilA 6y ago

> covid is more of a neurological disease than anything else It seems that there are neurological complications (as well as clotting problems and kidney problems), but let's not forget that this disease primarily turns lungs into chewing gum. I don't think any neurological complication can cause a patient to self-destruct their lungs.

mrfusion 6y ago
Well for some people it could damage lungs but chewing gum is an extreme description. 25 percent to 80 percent of people with COVID-19 have such mild cases that they are unaware they have the virus. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-... Beyond that a follow up study done on severe patients with lung damage that showed the damage healed within 2.5 months: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-27359/v1 https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-27359/v1
- H8crilA 6y ago
  For those that are not "lucky" - chewing gum is pretty accurate, the lungs become completely swollen and filled with liquid and can no longer accommodate any air inside them. Ventilators help a lot because they push this liquid back. Look up coroners' reports on those that don't make it. And yes, most people make it through. This is certainly not a MERS kind of a monster.
- glandium 6y ago
  Some (a lot?) people unaware they had the virus have later been found to have lung damage.
  - mrfusion 6y ago
    Source?
    - glandium 6y ago
      Google for "silent lung damage covid", you'll find multiple articles with possibly links to studies. IIRC, it came up as early as when people from the Diamond Princess have been studied. BTW: > Beyond that a follow up study done on severe patients with lung damage that showed the damage healed within 2.5 months That's good news. Some weeks ago, medical researchers were afraid the damage might be permanent.
      - amyjess 6y ago
        For what it's worth, another good search term to use would be "ground glass opacities".

faitswulff 6y ago

There was a study recently on the neuroinvasiveness of SARS-CoV-2: https://twitter.com/ericsongg/status/1276683771375468546 https://twitter.com/ericsongg/status/1276683771375468546 There's also been evidence that it infects the central nervous system: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7094171/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7094171/ This is a scary disease. To take another example, the flu, AFAIK, is not neuroinvasive and does not cross the blood brain barrier.

ars 6y ago

> is more of a neurological disease The NYT is sensationalizing, this isn't from COVID itself, it's from the sedation. From the same newspaper: https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/nightmares-after-the-i-c-u/ https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/nightmares-after-t...