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Could you name a few better alternatives? I've been fishing..

sourcex 6y ago
Obsidian - https://obsidian.md https://obsidian.md 2. Stroll - Open source - https://giffmex.org/experiments/strol...]https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.experiment.html https://giffmex.org/experiments/strol...]https://giffmex.org... 3. RemNote - https://www.remnote.io/homepage https://www.remnote.io/homepage 4. Amplenote - https://www.amplenote.com/ https://www.amplenote.com/
- dunefox 6y ago
  Obsidian has no Latex support, so it's useless for me.
  - ericax 6y ago
    Obsidian supports LaTeX through the $...$ and $$...$$ syntax and renders them using MathJax.
    - dunefox 6y ago
      A couple of weeks ago when I last tested it it didn't support inplace Latex. That might have changed.
- nscmnto 6y ago
  None of these alternatives (or others, AFAIK) have automatic references, which for me is the biggest Roam feature.
  - yewenjie 6y ago
    By automatic referencing do you mean backlinking?
    - bernatfp 6y ago
      I think the parent is referring to unlinked references: https://www.roamtips.com/home/roam-unlinked-references https://www.roamtips.com/home/roam-unlinked-references
      - nscmnto 6y ago
        Yup, that’s it :)
        yewenjie 6y ago
        Org-roam supports unlinked references. In any case, that's super easy to implement (it's just plain search for the current document title in all other titles) and I expect others to soon offer this feature.
      - vlutton 6y ago
        Obsidian does have that feature, so at least one of those options should work. For me, the best thing about roam is the outline level block references. Having to create a bunch of new atomic notes can start to make things really confusing from an organizational perspective and that is what always bogged me down previously. I can use Roam more like a bullet journal, just open up today's note, throw a header down for whatever meeting I am in and start to capture, then click on the header to get all the previous notes I have taken on that subject. Note that I am not a researcher, but a dev manager, so most of my note-taking revolves around meeting notes and action items with some research thrown in.
- z3ncyberpunk 6y ago
  Trillium is a much better alternative to Obsidian's freemium marketing choice and poor licensing
yewenjie 6y ago
If you're already using Emacs (or are willing to spend a few days learning and configuring things, with lifelong benefits), there is nothing that can beat org-roam. It has been discussed multiple times here on HN.
roryokane 6y ago
It’s still in development, but keep an eye on Athens (https://github.com/athensresearch/athens https://github.com/athensresearch/athens), an open-source self-hosted web app. The project’s plan is to have a usable MVP on August 1. (Disclaimer: I’m a contributor.) Athens will allow importing of Roam databases and will support many of Roam’s features, such as blocks, pages, backlinks, and Roam markup syntax. Unlike Roam, Athens stores your database of notes on your local computer, since it is a self-hosted web app.

Obsidian - https://obsidian.md https://obsidian.md 2. Stroll - Open source - https://giffmex.org/experiments/strol...]https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.experiment.html https://giffmex.org/experiments/strol...]https://giffmex.org... 3. RemNote - https://www.remnote.io/homepage https://www.remnote.io/homepage 4. Amplenote - https://www.amplenote.com/ https://www.amplenote.com/

dunefox 6y ago
Obsidian has no Latex support, so it's useless for me.
- ericax 6y ago
  Obsidian supports LaTeX through the $...$ and $$...$$ syntax and renders them using MathJax.
  - dunefox 6y ago
    A couple of weeks ago when I last tested it it didn't support inplace Latex. That might have changed.
nscmnto 6y ago
None of these alternatives (or others, AFAIK) have automatic references, which for me is the biggest Roam feature.
- yewenjie 6y ago
  By automatic referencing do you mean backlinking?
  - bernatfp 6y ago
    I think the parent is referring to unlinked references: https://www.roamtips.com/home/roam-unlinked-references https://www.roamtips.com/home/roam-unlinked-references
    - nscmnto 6y ago
      Yup, that’s it :)
      - yewenjie 6y ago
        Org-roam supports unlinked references. In any case, that's super easy to implement (it's just plain search for the current document title in all other titles) and I expect others to soon offer this feature.
    - vlutton 6y ago
      Obsidian does have that feature, so at least one of those options should work. For me, the best thing about roam is the outline level block references. Having to create a bunch of new atomic notes can start to make things really confusing from an organizational perspective and that is what always bogged me down previously. I can use Roam more like a bullet journal, just open up today's note, throw a header down for whatever meeting I am in and start to capture, then click on the header to get all the previous notes I have taken on that subject. Note that I am not a researcher, but a dev manager, so most of my note-taking revolves around meeting notes and action items with some research thrown in.
z3ncyberpunk 6y ago
Trillium is a much better alternative to Obsidian's freemium marketing choice and poor licensing

yewenjie 6y ago

If you're already using Emacs (or are willing to spend a few days learning and configuring things, with lifelong benefits), there is nothing that can beat org-roam. It has been discussed multiple times here on HN.

roryokane 6y ago

It’s still in development, but keep an eye on Athens (https://github.com/athensresearch/athens https://github.com/athensresearch/athens), an open-source self-hosted web app. The project’s plan is to have a usable MVP on August 1. (Disclaimer: I’m a contributor.) Athens will allow importing of Roam databases and will support many of Roam’s features, such as blocks, pages, backlinks, and Roam markup syntax. Unlike Roam, Athens stores your database of notes on your local computer, since it is a self-hosted web app.