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> So all of these groups choose to live in separate neighborhoods, because they all are racist to each other? No, because the empowered class artificially crea
by komali2 6y ago
> So all of these groups choose to live in separate neighborhoods, because they all are racist to each other?
No, because the empowered class artificially created ghettos, and either forced racial separation directly or indirectly by removing access to societal resources, forcing communities to form to compensate. Of course Cuban refugees will form Spanish speaking communities in a hostile Florida - everything is in English (which they're still learning), many local whites don't want them there and sometimes make that very apparent, and the community is already filled with people with the same background that "made it work," so can offer useful advice and resources.
This doesn't change anything about diversity bringing power, when one can overcome societal biases and racism.
- zosima 6y agoPray, tell. Why would these repressed Cubans not live together with hispanics, in hispanic ghettos. Speaking the same language and all. After all, that would make them a stronger force, and definitely give them more diversity.
- komali2 6y agoThey... Do...? That's why an empowerment movement might focus on Latinx in general, and as you go more local you might find some of the same people at the state Latinx rally as you do at a city's Cuban American resource exchange group or whatever. The point is that self-sorting doesn't by definition mean that humans are inherently racist or that it's natural/ethical to oppress minority populations, which I take as one of the many bad taste implications from this thread.
- zosima 6y agoI don't see anybody except you conflate natural and ethical. So the cubans now live side by side with mexicans? And both they and mexicans/south americans self-identify as hispanics/latinx and not cubans, mexicans or something else? And having a Cuban American cultural exchange is just an oddity of history? And is now more the latinx american cultural exchange?
- komali2 6y agoThe thread is being lost - what exactly is the point you're trying to make?
- zosima 6y agoThat self-selection for living and organizing with kindred is something that also happens in the absence of extreme power disparity.
- komali2 6y agoYou've failed to provide evidence. All the examples we're discussing involve extreme power disparity. That also doesn't necessarily mean that diversity = bad. It's easier to stay at home and watch Netflix than it is to travel to a foreign country and experience their culture, yet every time I do the latter, no matter how uncomfortable the trip can make me at times, I always come back grateful I did the trip, and imo a far better person.