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Closer, but too simplistic - USSR had its own industry [0]. But it was in heavy need of aviation, heavy trucks, locomotives, fuel, ammunition and food for army.

Closer, but too simplistic - USSR had its own industry [0]. But it was in heavy need of aviation, heavy trucks, locomotives, fuel, ammunition and food for army. A lot of supplies were captured in Operation Barbarossa. Wikipedia has better description [1]: > In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386 of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans); 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras) and 1.75 million tons of food. Compare with totals [2], check out USSR tanks production (119,583) [3]. And Lend Lease resources were not free - they had to be payed back. The brilliance of USA move was helping others to fight their enemy. You can always replace goods but no way to replace a man. Without USSR they would loose a lot. Quite possibly there would be no USA today. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_industry_in_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_industry_in_World_War_I... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_production_during_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_production_during_Wor... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_combat_vehicle_production_during_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_combat_vehicle_producti...

brnt 6y ago
Well, there is a reason hiring mercenaries is usually regarded as a shady proposition. But you're right, Russia and America made a good match in WW2. It's just an angle that's not often illuminated (thanks for your far better post btw) and as always in this story, it's so sad that ordinary Russians ultimately paid the price. I wish that part also was shown differently (in Russia). Russia was not a casualty, Russians were. And Russians certainly did not win this war.
- gdy 6y ago
  "And Russians certainly did not win this war." We most certainly did, we still exist as a nation.
  - brnt 6y ago
    If there ever was a people divorced from its nationstate, its Russia. I know the propaganda department does not allow for critical thinking on this matter, but Russians did not win, and have never really won. That I hope will change someday.
    - gdy 6y ago
      You remind me of people in the Soviet Union brainwashed by the propaganda and confident that it is all true. We have shook off that and got quite a cynical attitude. I see you haven't done the same. I don't have a hope that it will change someday.
      - brnt 6y ago
        Not sure what you mean. What I hope is a human Russian history, not dictated by what passes for government there. An honest confrontation with the past, and not a Hollywood interpretation meant to match the US and to cover up the horrors that have occurred.
        gdy 6y ago
        What you offer ("It would be more precise to say the Russians were an American mercenary army.") by far beats the craziest Hollywood interpretations.
      - sergeykish 6y ago
        You ignore USSR and Bolsheviks crimes, you know better than USSR marshal about "combined efforts", you look quite brainwashed.
        gdy 6y ago
        No, I don't.
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brnt 6y ago

Well, there is a reason hiring mercenaries is usually regarded as a shady proposition. But you're right, Russia and America made a good match in WW2. It's just an angle that's not often illuminated (thanks for your far better post btw) and as always in this story, it's so sad that ordinary Russians ultimately paid the price. I wish that part also was shown differently (in Russia). Russia was not a casualty, Russians were. And Russians certainly did not win this war.

gdy 6y ago
"And Russians certainly did not win this war." We most certainly did, we still exist as a nation.
- brnt 6y ago
  If there ever was a people divorced from its nationstate, its Russia. I know the propaganda department does not allow for critical thinking on this matter, but Russians did not win, and have never really won. That I hope will change someday.
  - gdy 6y ago
    You remind me of people in the Soviet Union brainwashed by the propaganda and confident that it is all true. We have shook off that and got quite a cynical attitude. I see you haven't done the same. I don't have a hope that it will change someday.
    - brnt 6y ago
      Not sure what you mean. What I hope is a human Russian history, not dictated by what passes for government there. An honest confrontation with the past, and not a Hollywood interpretation meant to match the US and to cover up the horrors that have occurred.
      - gdy 6y ago
        What you offer ("It would be more precise to say the Russians were an American mercenary army.") by far beats the craziest Hollywood interpretations.
    - sergeykish 6y ago
      You ignore USSR and Bolsheviks crimes, you know better than USSR marshal about "combined efforts", you look quite brainwashed.
      - gdy 6y ago
        No, I don't.
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