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> the advice I try to follow is: Eat whatever you want, just make it yourself. This is categorically bad advice. Anyone that has an obese friend that’s into ba

by hnarn 6y ago

> the advice I try to follow is: Eat whatever you want, just make it yourself. This is categorically bad advice. Anyone that has an obese friend that’s into baking knows why. It’s very easy to make incredibly unhealthy and calorie-dense food at home. I understand the sentiment but there is nothing about the process of making your own food that makes you a more healthy person. It all depends on the ingredients and the amount. It’s obviously better to eat healthy takeout every day than it is to cook home made french fries for dinner.

humanrebar 6y ago
Yep. Dry pasta, white rice, pancakes, and hot dogs are all very easy to make and very calorie dense, especially when served as folks typically do: with buns, syrups, sugary sauces, etc
jeffdavis 6y ago
I think it comes from the idea that you'll have more knowledge about what you are eating. There's some truth to that, but cooking for yourself still hides a lot. And it might end up just being a false sense of health. It's also what stage you are at. Most people can't make soda at home, so eliminating that alone might be a big help for some.
- hnarn 6y ago
  > Most people can't make soda at home Sure, but most people also already know that soda is unhealthy for you, so they can stop buying it and drink water with their food instead. It doesn't require a framework of "home cook everything" to make these small, incremental changes: in fact I'd argue that these changes are easier than what's essentially just a diet by another name.
war1025 6y ago
> This is categorically bad advice. Then perhaps a simpler version: Don't be dumb.
- hnarn 6y ago
  If your advice needs to be prefaced with "obviously, don't take this advice literally", then it's not great advice.
  - war1025 6y ago
    Not a hill I'm wanting to die on. You win.
duopixel 6y ago
That's because _patisserie_ is really a combination of processed ingredients (fruit is mostly decoration). Should my obese friend grind wheat into flour, turn milk into butter, juice sugar canes into sugar, he'd surely bake less and expend more calories doing it.

by hnarn 6y ago

humanrebar 6y ago

Yep. Dry pasta, white rice, pancakes, and hot dogs are all very easy to make and very calorie dense, especially when served as folks typically do: with buns, syrups, sugary sauces, etc

jeffdavis 6y ago

I think it comes from the idea that you'll have more knowledge about what you are eating. There's some truth to that, but cooking for yourself still hides a lot. And it might end up just being a false sense of health. It's also what stage you are at. Most people can't make soda at home, so eliminating that alone might be a big help for some.

hnarn 6y ago
> Most people can't make soda at home Sure, but most people also already know that soda is unhealthy for you, so they can stop buying it and drink water with their food instead. It doesn't require a framework of "home cook everything" to make these small, incremental changes: in fact I'd argue that these changes are easier than what's essentially just a diet by another name.

war1025 6y ago

> This is categorically bad advice. Then perhaps a simpler version: Don't be dumb.

hnarn 6y ago
If your advice needs to be prefaced with "obviously, don't take this advice literally", then it's not great advice.
- war1025 6y ago
  Not a hill I'm wanting to die on. You win.

duopixel 6y ago

That's because _patisserie_ is really a combination of processed ingredients (fruit is mostly decoration). Should my obese friend grind wheat into flour, turn milk into butter, juice sugar canes into sugar, he'd surely bake less and expend more calories doing it.