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No matter which way you slice it, America has a very capable blue water navy while China's barely qualifies. They're on tier with India, Italy, and Russia; onl
by catalogia 6y ago
No matter which way you slice it, America has a very capable blue water navy while China's barely qualifies. They're on tier with India, Italy, and Russia; only capable of force-projection in their neighborhood. Besides the US, France and the UK are capable of global power projection; that's it. And both of those are in NATO too.
- nl 6y agoFrance isn't in NATO. Edit: ok they are. But they did attempt to withdraw and were only stopped by the 20 year rule. And they still don't have unified nuclear command. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_from_NATO https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_from_NATO
- detaro 6y agoFrance is a founding member of NATO.
- catalogia 6y agoFrance was a member of NATO from the very beginning. In the 60s France had some manner of dispute with the rest of NATO and disassociated themselves in some capacity, but technically remained a member. Since 2009, French/NATO relations have been largely normalized, I think with the exception of how the French government chooses to control France's nukes. > Edit: ok they are. But they did attempt to withdraw and were only stopped by the 20 year rule. And they still don't have unified nuclear command. Be that as it may, I don't think Americans need an expensive navy to protect themselves from the French.
- tenuousemphasis 6y agoThat would be news to NATO. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm