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Nothing can prevent terrible people from using an open source project. Meanwhile, Reddit doesn't do much of anything about this problem either. For, example /r/

Nothing can prevent terrible people from using an open source project. Meanwhile, Reddit doesn't do much of anything about this problem either. For, example /r/metacanada exists, and white supremacists from there are also moderating /r/canada subbreddit, Reddit hasn't taken any action on that. At least the developers of Lemmy are very clear [1] about their stance regarding nazis, that's more than I can say for Reddit. It's also worth noting that Mastodon has millions of users now, and it clearly isn't attracting the worst people. In fact, I find it's a far healthier and friendlier community than Twitter. [1] https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/34286 https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/34286

lillesvin 6y ago
The Reddit admins don't meddle in who moderates what. They'll take action on subreddits against the ToS but if someone's a mod on both /r/EvilShitThatsProbablyIllegal and /r/Kittens it's not something they're going to do anything about — and rightly so, IMO.
- yogthos 6y ago
  The problem is that /r/metacanda is a hate sub for white supremacists by white supermacists. Apparently that's well within Reddit ToS though.
  - Vaslo 6y ago
    What is an example of a “White Supremacist” message on there? Not seeing anything supremacist in the first 10 or so top messages.
    - pasabagi 6y ago
      Nazis tend to have a lot of dog-whistles, and it's hard to keep up with them, but I tend to assume that any site that includes direct slurs ('retard', etc) with a lot of more subtle symbols (pepe everywhere, 'globalists') and a lot of content ridiculing various minorites and 'leftists' is probably a Nazi hangout.
trackofalljades 6y ago
The situation on /r/canada is heartbreaking. Over recent weeks, almost every attempt to post a news article involving civil rights or anything overtly related to Black, LGBTQ+ or Indigenous issues has been immediately zeroed down, and in many cases then removed by a mod (their favourite method is to just hit the "dupe" button on all posts about a given news item or opinion piece, claiming they're all dupes, and not leaving one up). If you make the mistake of discussing this on any other Canadian related sub where the /r/canada mods frequent, they'll ban you for life and say that you were "brigading."
- adtac 6y ago
  in case you didn't know, come to /r/onguardforthee, the sane and inclusive Canadian subreddit
kemonocode 6y ago
Taking such a strong proselytizing stance when it comes to Antifa is not exactly a good look in my eyes either as the entire situation reeks of thinking "Antifa" only means "Anti-fascist." I subscribe strongly to the horseshoe theory and Antifa is closer to those they purportedly fight against than most people are comfortable with admitting. But hey, that's the beauty (and ugliness) of federation: I don't have to like it and I can just start my own server. On the flipside, it also means I need to be beholden to a considerable amount of social rules, some of them unwritten, if I want to federate with the majority of the servers out there. I know how it goes, I've seen it first-hand when it comes to ActivityPub instances. That's how you get cliques.
- door99 6y ago
  How on earth is being against fascism and being for fascism similar in any regards at all
  - yogthos 6y ago
    In fact, I'd argue that anybody who's not explicitly anti-fascist is at the very least comfortable with fascism.
    - kemonocode 6y ago
      I am anti-fascist. Neo-Nazis and anyone who espouse similar views will get absolutely no love from me. That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa.
      - door99 6y ago
        >I am anti-fascist >That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa. Do you know what antifa is short for
        airtonix 6y ago
        YOu know what doublethink is?
intsunny 6y ago
Looking at the mod list of /r/canada [0]. and /r/metacanada [1], I'm not seeing any overlap of mods. Am I missing something? [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/about/moderators/ https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/about/moderators/ [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/metacanada/about/moderators/ https://www.reddit.com/r/metacanada/about/moderators/

lillesvin 6y ago

The Reddit admins don't meddle in who moderates what. They'll take action on subreddits against the ToS but if someone's a mod on both /r/EvilShitThatsProbablyIllegal and /r/Kittens it's not something they're going to do anything about — and rightly so, IMO.

yogthos 6y ago
The problem is that /r/metacanda is a hate sub for white supremacists by white supermacists. Apparently that's well within Reddit ToS though.
- Vaslo 6y ago
  What is an example of a “White Supremacist” message on there? Not seeing anything supremacist in the first 10 or so top messages.
  - pasabagi 6y ago
    Nazis tend to have a lot of dog-whistles, and it's hard to keep up with them, but I tend to assume that any site that includes direct slurs ('retard', etc) with a lot of more subtle symbols (pepe everywhere, 'globalists') and a lot of content ridiculing various minorites and 'leftists' is probably a Nazi hangout.

trackofalljades 6y ago

The situation on /r/canada is heartbreaking. Over recent weeks, almost every attempt to post a news article involving civil rights or anything overtly related to Black, LGBTQ+ or Indigenous issues has been immediately zeroed down, and in many cases then removed by a mod (their favourite method is to just hit the "dupe" button on all posts about a given news item or opinion piece, claiming they're all dupes, and not leaving one up). If you make the mistake of discussing this on any other Canadian related sub where the /r/canada mods frequent, they'll ban you for life and say that you were "brigading."

adtac 6y ago
in case you didn't know, come to /r/onguardforthee, the sane and inclusive Canadian subreddit

kemonocode 6y ago

Taking such a strong proselytizing stance when it comes to Antifa is not exactly a good look in my eyes either as the entire situation reeks of thinking "Antifa" only means "Anti-fascist." I subscribe strongly to the horseshoe theory and Antifa is closer to those they purportedly fight against than most people are comfortable with admitting. But hey, that's the beauty (and ugliness) of federation: I don't have to like it and I can just start my own server. On the flipside, it also means I need to be beholden to a considerable amount of social rules, some of them unwritten, if I want to federate with the majority of the servers out there. I know how it goes, I've seen it first-hand when it comes to ActivityPub instances. That's how you get cliques.

door99 6y ago
How on earth is being against fascism and being for fascism similar in any regards at all
- yogthos 6y ago
  In fact, I'd argue that anybody who's not explicitly anti-fascist is at the very least comfortable with fascism.
  - kemonocode 6y ago
    I am anti-fascist. Neo-Nazis and anyone who espouse similar views will get absolutely no love from me. That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa.
    - door99 6y ago
      >I am anti-fascist >That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa. Do you know what antifa is short for
      - airtonix 6y ago
        YOu know what doublethink is?

intsunny 6y ago

Looking at the mod list of /r/canada [0]. and /r/metacanada [1], I'm not seeing any overlap of mods. Am I missing something? [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/about/moderators/ https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/about/moderators/ [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/metacanada/about/moderators/ https://www.reddit.com/r/metacanada/about/moderators/