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Can we agree that both Germany and USSR gained territories as result [1], [2]? And they were trade partners [3]? And, yes, France and UK helped that to happen.
by sergeykish 6y ago
Can we agree that both Germany and USSR gained territories as result [1], [2]? And they were trade partners [3]? And, yes, France and UK helped that to happen.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_state...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Credit_Agreement_(1939) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Credit_A...
- gdy 6y agoThe USSR gained so much needed strategic depth, the Germany gained Lebensraum. Which country wasn't trading with Nazi Germany?
- sergeykish 6y ago"Germany gained so much needed strategic depth" - somehow Germany evil, USSR not - flawed logic
- gdy 6y agoYou are welcome to present a Soviet equivalent of the Lebensraum concept.
- sergeykish 6y agoGulag [1], Purges [2], man made famine [3], restriction of movement [4], population as means for World Revolution [5], imperialism [6]. Bolsheviks were terrorists [7], the state evolved from terrorists organisation. It should be shamed just as we shame Fascists. Meanwhile in Russia Stalin popularity is record high [8]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%93... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport_system_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport_system_in_the_Soviet_... [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_revolution [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror [8] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47975704 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47975704
- gdy 6y agoIt has nothing to do with Lebensraum.
- celticninja 6y agoIt walks like a duck and sounds like a duck. You can call it whatever you want, the ethos is the same.
- gdy 6y agoWe are talking about motivation for getting territories. All that the parent comment listed doesn't have anything to do with that.