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I don't view lemmy as I did voat. When I saw lemmy my first thought was that I wanted to host my own instance of this once federation works. I'm already hosti

I don't view lemmy as I did voat. When I saw lemmy my first thought was that I wanted to host my own instance of this once federation works. I'm already hosting mastodon and synapse instances for the community. I believe strongly in hosting small federated community instances. This hobby costs me about 80USD/mon.

jfk13 6y ago
> costs me about 80USD/mon That sounds like it would immediately exclude a huge number of potential participants from doing something similar.
- pferde 6y ago
  You don't need (and probably don't even want) every single participant doing this. A given community can pool money on a server of their own, and federate it with other communities' servers if they want.
- maeln 6y ago
  You can host a mastodon instance on a small server that doesn't cost this much, and you can pool the money with a few friends to have your own community for a few €/month :). I remember people doing it with TeamSpeak, Minecraft, Counter-strike, etc. server, its the same !
- INTPenis 6y ago
  I wasn't particular enough. I pay around 80USD/month for a 4G/2CPU/3node k8s cluster where I'm able to host Mastodon, Synapse, Riot-web and Elasticsearch. Included in the price is a persistent volume of 20G and object storage for media. The media storage is dirt cheap but it grows with the instance and users. One major issue some instance admins have is a lot of users uploading a lot of data. My instance is very small and also blocked registrations to EU. I expect to have enough capacity left over in my existing cluster to also host lemmy.
- chrysoprace 6y ago
  That sort of cost is not necessary unless you're hosting a larger community. I run synapse (for myself, but it's idling at quite a low load so it could easily support more people) on a $10 USD/month Linode. For personal use you could get by on a $5 Nanode, but I'm using my VPS for other things, too. The great thing about federation is that you don't have to host an entire community; just a slice of it.
nvr219 6y ago
Thank you, INTPenis.
honksillet 6y ago
Mastadon question. If there any way to search mastadon instances? It seems discoverability is an issue.
- INTPenis 6y ago
  No not all instances, unless you write a script using their API. The public timeline of all instances is by default public, without authentication. So technically you could scrape them. Also I must advocate relaying. ActivityPub relays are very simple servers that receive all posts from any subscribed instance. Not just mastodon either, multiple AP services supported. And then relays those posts to all subscribed instances. Relaying does wonders for the public timeline of a small localized instance.

jfk13 6y ago

> costs me about 80USD/mon That sounds like it would immediately exclude a huge number of potential participants from doing something similar.

pferde 6y ago
You don't need (and probably don't even want) every single participant doing this. A given community can pool money on a server of their own, and federate it with other communities' servers if they want.
maeln 6y ago
You can host a mastodon instance on a small server that doesn't cost this much, and you can pool the money with a few friends to have your own community for a few €/month :). I remember people doing it with TeamSpeak, Minecraft, Counter-strike, etc. server, its the same !
INTPenis 6y ago
I wasn't particular enough. I pay around 80USD/month for a 4G/2CPU/3node k8s cluster where I'm able to host Mastodon, Synapse, Riot-web and Elasticsearch. Included in the price is a persistent volume of 20G and object storage for media. The media storage is dirt cheap but it grows with the instance and users. One major issue some instance admins have is a lot of users uploading a lot of data. My instance is very small and also blocked registrations to EU. I expect to have enough capacity left over in my existing cluster to also host lemmy.
chrysoprace 6y ago
That sort of cost is not necessary unless you're hosting a larger community. I run synapse (for myself, but it's idling at quite a low load so it could easily support more people) on a $10 USD/month Linode. For personal use you could get by on a $5 Nanode, but I'm using my VPS for other things, too. The great thing about federation is that you don't have to host an entire community; just a slice of it.

nvr219 6y ago

Thank you, INTPenis.

honksillet 6y ago

Mastadon question. If there any way to search mastadon instances? It seems discoverability is an issue.

INTPenis 6y ago
No not all instances, unless you write a script using their API. The public timeline of all instances is by default public, without authentication. So technically you could scrape them. Also I must advocate relaying. ActivityPub relays are very simple servers that receive all posts from any subscribed instance. Not just mastodon either, multiple AP services supported. And then relays those posts to all subscribed instances. Relaying does wonders for the public timeline of a small localized instance.