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"You're making a lot of (intentional or not) dogwhistles." And you're not, of course... "races in the US continue to be relatively segregated[0]." Yes, simil
by kebman 6y ago
"You're making a lot of (intentional or not) dogwhistles."
And you're not, of course...
"races in the US continue to be relatively segregated[0]."
Yes, similar groups, culturally or otherwise, tend to want to live among their own. Is this a problem?
"crimes, even violent ones, are usually committed within-community."
Of course.
"So the meme around "black on black violence" is a bit of a distraction unless you also are concerned about "white on white" violence."
I disagree. The most logical thing to do, is to look closer at the groups that actually commit the most crime, if you want to fight that crime. You have to remember that the decision to do something illegal is individual, so you have to put the blame where the blame is due. You can't blame the system, because it's equal for everyone. And if it's not, well, then you have to prove that it's unfair, and so far haven't really been very persuasive. This doesn't make white-on-white violence unimportant. Only less important thatn black-on-black violence under this discussion.
"organizations like stop the violence[1] do exist to address specifically violence within the black community."
Has it helped? I think we both agree on the answer here.
"So you start by stating true, but ultimately misleading claims that are often used to justify racial prejudice."
Make up your mind, please! Are the facts "true" or not? Facts are just facts, man. It's how you respond to them that matters. And by the way, facts aren't "claims." The fact that blacks kill most blacks isn't a claim; it's a fact! The proof is in the pudding, as it where, or in this case in the FBI statistics.
Look, if one group pesters you daily, and tries to steal your candy, then yeah, you're probably justified in being somewhat prejudiced against them, no matter the colour of their skin...
But guess what, if one groups steals and murders way more than another group, then probably this will cause the authorities to look closer at that group. Sadly this will also lead to more false positives being produced when the police finally starts doing their job. Of course, it's easy to label that as "institutional racism," especially when there's political power and money in it, but let's face it, it's really just an excuse, and a poor one at that.
"you justify this opinion with two videos from black people."
Of course I do. Otherwise you'd just call me a racist. I assume you're now going to do your best to discredit these two gentlemen instead of answering the facts...
"Neither Larry Elder nor Denzel Washington is an expert on incarceration or the US justice system."
But you are, of course...
"Larry Elder, in fact, is a right wing political pundit, so his income relies on his viewership. This calls into question his reliability."
Yes, only left wing pundits like yourself have the monopoly on truth, I see... Look, I have no horse in this race, but I can only assume that you're a flaming Democrat. :D
"I'd suggest you watch the documentary 13th[2] or read up on these issues from actual experts."
Thanks, I might look into it.