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They also caught like 20 other popular apps doing the same thing including NYTimes, Google News, and even Google Chrome. Instead of highlighting all of those, t

They also caught like 20 other popular apps doing the same thing including NYTimes, Google News, and even Google Chrome. Instead of highlighting all of those, the article chooses to play on the "evil chinese" theme, for more sensationalist headlines. Appalling, in my opinion.

fouc 6y ago
Yup. No one upvote this article because it's clickbait
bobobob420 6y ago
"evil chinese theme" LOL. It is much more dangerous for the Chinese government to have access to more data on users than NYT or other corporations. In the previously article written by the author he says "TikTok stands out, though, given its much wider security concerns." "Sensationalist Headline". Headline of article: "Beware If You Use TikTok On Your iPhone: Here’s Why You Should Now Worry—New Security Report". Much wow, so much sensationalism in this title. Snooping for passwords and personal data on the clipboard, I guess we should not worry about TikTok. That is why the DOD banned it's use on their bases, they banned all other apps right?
- deanCommie 6y ago
  > LOL. It is much more dangerous for the Chinese government to have access to more data on users than NYT or other corporations. 20 years ago this would have been a no-brainer statement. 5 years ago you'd say "Well, yes, through PRISM and many other NSA problems, if a private US corporation has your data, so does the US government. But don't worry, the Government doesn't care about individual citizens, and wouldn't use that maliciously." In 2020, do you really think that the Trump administration would have any qualms about using any NSA data against their "enemies" (which includes Journalists not bending to the spin of the administration?) Honestly, the only reason I think it hasn't been done yet is Trump is too stupid to realize all the tools available to his disposal. If you're a Chinese citizen, you should be more afraid of the Chinese Government, yes. If you're a US citizen, you should be much much more afraid of the US government. And as a citizen of neither, I'm afraid of both equally.
- 0x262d 6y ago
  > It is much more dangerous for the Chinese government to have access to more data why? if you're not profiting from an industry that competes with a chinese one, or leading the DoD, why would you give a shit that it's chinese instead of your own local, patriotic cops and profiteers spying on you? social media has been full of videos of cops beating protesters up for weeks now. can we please drop the childish illusion that there's one "team america" and we're all on it now?
  - bobobob420 6y ago
    sure there is no one team america internally in America but externally there is an ever evolving war of multiple countries seeking more gain, through military, digital, and economic means. If you do not believe this, then you are naive. There are actual war battles being fought 24/7 sponsored by governments, land grabs, state sponsored cyber attacks from plenty of countries. So in the case of the Chinese government, where the current leadership has proven countless times they want to enact Mao's plans, it is in America's best interest to be wary of companies that are Chinese. How many times have our governments and corporations been hacking by Chinese backed agents to steal blueprints, plans, and valuable information. There is nothing childish about what is going on GLOBALLY. not everything revolves around internal America politics.
    - 0x262d 6y ago
      I have no interest in stealing from or fighting chinese people, except to the extent that profiteers in china have a material interest in stealing from me - which is equally true for local american profiteers. I have no desire to drum up Cold War 2.0 hysteria, or be suckered into it by those who do have a material interest in nationalistic competition. > How many times have our governments and corporations been hacking by Chinese backed agents to steal blueprints, plans, and valuable information I simply don't give a shit about american companies have their right to collect more ill-gotten, IP based profits in china undercut by people in china doing exactly the same thing. and if you do care about it, you're either an IP profiteer or a sucker. and either way this is incredibly xenophobic. sorry.
- bitwize 6y ago
  Singling out TikTok with unfounded Yellow Peril insinuations is an alt-right scare tactic to appeal to sinophobia. The Chinese aren't really doing anything Western corporations don't do, and in many ways, technologically and socially, China is ahead of the USA. You do not see Chinese police, for instance, arresting or murdering people because of the color of their skin. Naomi Wu is stunning and brave. Brought to you by Tencent.
  - azinman2 6y ago
    To be fair, they are using the police to arrest and brainwash the Uyghurs... and right now increasing the security apparatus in Hong Kong to remove any dissent...
  - jasonhansel 6y ago
    > You do not see Chinese police, for instance, arresting or murdering people because of the color of their skin. You also don't--at present--see the US government deporting over a million people to concentration camps because of their ethnicity and religious beliefs.
    - Fricken 6y ago
      And yet America has way more people per capita in prison than China. If I recall there were some protests recently that were related to the skin colour of those America prefers to lock up.
  - peteretep 6y ago
    > alt-right scare tactic to appeal to sinophobia. Not everything you don't like is alt-right. America has plenty of Sinophobia (founded or unfounded) to go around. Also: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=harrasment+of+black+people+in+china https://duckduckgo.com/?q=harrasment+of+black+people+in+chin... Also I recently learned this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_anti-African_protests#Tiananmen_Square_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_anti-African_protests#...
082349872349872 6y ago
It is not only a centre-right source (consider how often FT has anything positive to say about the EU), but also an anglophone one. Following news in different languages makes it obvious that privately owned news sources are not necessarily any less biased than state sponsored (often simply an epithet?) ones. (TIL Radio Yerevan's successor not only live streams but offers an english-language front page: https://en.armradio.am https://en.armradio.am ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_largest_historical_GDP#By_average_values_of_GDP_(PPP) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_largest_h... qualitatively gives a pretty good past performance on who got the bulk of Oceanian two-minutes hate (USSR -> Japan -> China), even though quantitatively it seems off (I think Japan got much less two-minutes hate in the 90s than it did in the 80s)
garceus 6y ago
I noticed that too - Western media loves to blame China and manufacture consent
- reiichiroh 6y ago
  Do you mean dissent?
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zuhsetaqi 6y ago
The difference is, that most Apps does read your clipboard when you start the App to check, if there is some relevant information for that App and part of the reason why is that you can not set default Apps in iOS (in iOS 14 this will be possible for browser and mail). A browser for example does check if you have a URL to offer you to open it. Apollo (a Reddit client) for example does check if you have a Reddit URL in your clipboard to offer you to open it. Or a banking App does read it to offer you to make a transfer to a IBAN you have in your clipboard. But TikTok did read the clipboard every few keystrokes you did on your keyboard. That’s a huge difference. Of course you can’t say for sure that all the others didn’t do anything crazy with the data from your clipboard but they at least have a valid reason to read it.

fouc 6y ago

Yup. No one upvote this article because it's clickbait

bobobob420 6y ago

"evil chinese theme" LOL. It is much more dangerous for the Chinese government to have access to more data on users than NYT or other corporations. In the previously article written by the author he says "TikTok stands out, though, given its much wider security concerns." "Sensationalist Headline". Headline of article: "Beware If You Use TikTok On Your iPhone: Here’s Why You Should Now Worry—New Security Report". Much wow, so much sensationalism in this title. Snooping for passwords and personal data on the clipboard, I guess we should not worry about TikTok. That is why the DOD banned it's use on their bases, they banned all other apps right?

deanCommie 6y ago
> LOL. It is much more dangerous for the Chinese government to have access to more data on users than NYT or other corporations. 20 years ago this would have been a no-brainer statement. 5 years ago you'd say "Well, yes, through PRISM and many other NSA problems, if a private US corporation has your data, so does the US government. But don't worry, the Government doesn't care about individual citizens, and wouldn't use that maliciously." In 2020, do you really think that the Trump administration would have any qualms about using any NSA data against their "enemies" (which includes Journalists not bending to the spin of the administration?) Honestly, the only reason I think it hasn't been done yet is Trump is too stupid to realize all the tools available to his disposal. If you're a Chinese citizen, you should be more afraid of the Chinese Government, yes. If you're a US citizen, you should be much much more afraid of the US government. And as a citizen of neither, I'm afraid of both equally.
0x262d 6y ago
> It is much more dangerous for the Chinese government to have access to more data why? if you're not profiting from an industry that competes with a chinese one, or leading the DoD, why would you give a shit that it's chinese instead of your own local, patriotic cops and profiteers spying on you? social media has been full of videos of cops beating protesters up for weeks now. can we please drop the childish illusion that there's one "team america" and we're all on it now?
- bobobob420 6y ago
  sure there is no one team america internally in America but externally there is an ever evolving war of multiple countries seeking more gain, through military, digital, and economic means. If you do not believe this, then you are naive. There are actual war battles being fought 24/7 sponsored by governments, land grabs, state sponsored cyber attacks from plenty of countries. So in the case of the Chinese government, where the current leadership has proven countless times they want to enact Mao's plans, it is in America's best interest to be wary of companies that are Chinese. How many times have our governments and corporations been hacking by Chinese backed agents to steal blueprints, plans, and valuable information. There is nothing childish about what is going on GLOBALLY. not everything revolves around internal America politics.
  - 0x262d 6y ago
    I have no interest in stealing from or fighting chinese people, except to the extent that profiteers in china have a material interest in stealing from me - which is equally true for local american profiteers. I have no desire to drum up Cold War 2.0 hysteria, or be suckered into it by those who do have a material interest in nationalistic competition. > How many times have our governments and corporations been hacking by Chinese backed agents to steal blueprints, plans, and valuable information I simply don't give a shit about american companies have their right to collect more ill-gotten, IP based profits in china undercut by people in china doing exactly the same thing. and if you do care about it, you're either an IP profiteer or a sucker. and either way this is incredibly xenophobic. sorry.
bitwize 6y ago
Singling out TikTok with unfounded Yellow Peril insinuations is an alt-right scare tactic to appeal to sinophobia. The Chinese aren't really doing anything Western corporations don't do, and in many ways, technologically and socially, China is ahead of the USA. You do not see Chinese police, for instance, arresting or murdering people because of the color of their skin. Naomi Wu is stunning and brave. Brought to you by Tencent.
- azinman2 6y ago
  To be fair, they are using the police to arrest and brainwash the Uyghurs... and right now increasing the security apparatus in Hong Kong to remove any dissent...
- jasonhansel 6y ago
  > You do not see Chinese police, for instance, arresting or murdering people because of the color of their skin. You also don't--at present--see the US government deporting over a million people to concentration camps because of their ethnicity and religious beliefs.
  - Fricken 6y ago
    And yet America has way more people per capita in prison than China. If I recall there were some protests recently that were related to the skin colour of those America prefers to lock up.
- peteretep 6y ago
  > alt-right scare tactic to appeal to sinophobia. Not everything you don't like is alt-right. America has plenty of Sinophobia (founded or unfounded) to go around. Also: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=harrasment+of+black+people+in+china https://duckduckgo.com/?q=harrasment+of+black+people+in+chin... Also I recently learned this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_anti-African_protests#Tiananmen_Square_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_anti-African_protests#...

082349872349872 6y ago

It is not only a centre-right source (consider how often FT has anything positive to say about the EU), but also an anglophone one. Following news in different languages makes it obvious that privately owned news sources are not necessarily any less biased than state sponsored (often simply an epithet?) ones. (TIL Radio Yerevan's successor not only live streams but offers an english-language front page: https://en.armradio.am https://en.armradio.am ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_largest_historical_GDP#By_average_values_of_GDP_(PPP) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_largest_h... qualitatively gives a pretty good past performance on who got the bulk of Oceanian two-minutes hate (USSR -> Japan -> China), even though quantitatively it seems off (I think Japan got much less two-minutes hate in the 90s than it did in the 80s)

garceus 6y ago

I noticed that too - Western media loves to blame China and manufacture consent

reiichiroh 6y ago
Do you mean dissent?

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zuhsetaqi 6y ago

The difference is, that most Apps does read your clipboard when you start the App to check, if there is some relevant information for that App and part of the reason why is that you can not set default Apps in iOS (in iOS 14 this will be possible for browser and mail). A browser for example does check if you have a URL to offer you to open it. Apollo (a Reddit client) for example does check if you have a Reddit URL in your clipboard to offer you to open it. Or a banking App does read it to offer you to make a transfer to a IBAN you have in your clipboard. But TikTok did read the clipboard every few keystrokes you did on your keyboard. That’s a huge difference. Of course you can’t say for sure that all the others didn’t do anything crazy with the data from your clipboard but they at least have a valid reason to read it.