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The word 'bigoted' is getting thrown around all over the place in this post and most commenters, including this one, seem to have never actually looked it up in

The word 'bigoted' is getting thrown around all over the place in this post and most commenters, including this one, seem to have never actually looked it up in the dictionary. Bigoted does not mean right-wing, objectionable, or things one disagrees with. Bigoted means unwilling to change one's opinion. Which certainly applies to the hard left wing end of the spectrum just as much as it does to hard right. Bigoted: obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, and intolerant towards other people's beliefs and practices. If anything, so-called journalists using a platform to express 'concern' over things they disagree with is a better fit for the term. The job of a journalist is to report, not to preach their own brand of politics or dislikes or concerns.

eeZah7Ux 6y ago
> The word 'bigoted' is getting thrown around all over the place in this post and most commenters, including this one, seem to have never actually looked it up in the dictionary. On the contrary: """One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.""" It applies very well to people intolerant of other groups, ethnicity or race.
- missosoup 6y ago
  It's not restricted to ethnicity, groups or race. Bigotry is merely the refusal to entertain different beliefs; whatever their groupby factor may be. Cherry-picking parts of the definition to meet one's idea of what it 'should' be, is the actual meaning of bigotry. Please refer to the Oxford dictionary definition if you're still confused.
  - eeZah7Ux 6y ago
    Everybody can see what little game you are playing.
- secondcoming 6y ago
  Well, I guess there's a little bit of a bigot in everyone! It may sound like an insult but really isn't.
TulliusCicero 6y ago
No. > Definition of bigot > : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices > especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
- missosoup 6y ago
  Not sure what the 'no' is in regard to. That's entirely aligned to my comment. Or did you think obstinate devotion to opinions and prejudices only manifests in the the group of people you happen to disagree with?
  - TulliusCicero 6y ago
    You focused on unwillingness to change one's opinion. That's certainly a definition, but the more common one in use is about prejudice, especially prejudice based on inherent traits like sex or race or sexuality. I'm sure you're aware of that, which is why it's confusing that you're acting as if you're not. I don't dispute that it's extraordinarily difficult to get people to change political opinions, especially on the fringes. That was never my contention, I made that pretty clear with the example of bigoted communities I chose being white supremacists. Not sure how you could misread that, unless you wanted to.
    - missosoup 6y ago
      By choosing white supremacists, you've indicated the exact lack of understanding of what the term bigot means. It's not just a combination of the various *isms and phobias. It's the inability to accept new viewpoints - which is equally prevalent on both sides of the political spectrum. The left is just as unwilling to engage in dialogue or entertain the idea that not all of their views are inherently 'good' as the right. I can't relate at all to white supremacists, but I can tell you that they're more willing to actually discuss and argue their point of view than the 'shout until you get you way' ultra left wing. > Not sure how you could misread that, unless you wanted to Not everyone interprets the same inputs the same way. Especially not in your case when you claim to pick a 'more common' definition but carefully walk around the actual dictionary definition of both Oxford and Webster. Using that as an excuse for a thinly veiled accusation is a pretty good example of bigotry. I disagree with you, therefore you throw a thinly veiled accusation that I'm 'one of those' instead of actually engaging in debate on any level where you're prepared to lose. Why argue on merits when you can accuse the other person of deliberately misreading because of agenda.

eeZah7Ux 6y ago

> The word 'bigoted' is getting thrown around all over the place in this post and most commenters, including this one, seem to have never actually looked it up in the dictionary. On the contrary: """One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.""" It applies very well to people intolerant of other groups, ethnicity or race.

missosoup 6y ago
It's not restricted to ethnicity, groups or race. Bigotry is merely the refusal to entertain different beliefs; whatever their groupby factor may be. Cherry-picking parts of the definition to meet one's idea of what it 'should' be, is the actual meaning of bigotry. Please refer to the Oxford dictionary definition if you're still confused.
- eeZah7Ux 6y ago
  Everybody can see what little game you are playing.
secondcoming 6y ago
Well, I guess there's a little bit of a bigot in everyone! It may sound like an insult but really isn't.

TulliusCicero 6y ago

No. > Definition of bigot > : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices > especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

missosoup 6y ago
Not sure what the 'no' is in regard to. That's entirely aligned to my comment. Or did you think obstinate devotion to opinions and prejudices only manifests in the the group of people you happen to disagree with?
- TulliusCicero 6y ago
  You focused on unwillingness to change one's opinion. That's certainly a definition, but the more common one in use is about prejudice, especially prejudice based on inherent traits like sex or race or sexuality. I'm sure you're aware of that, which is why it's confusing that you're acting as if you're not. I don't dispute that it's extraordinarily difficult to get people to change political opinions, especially on the fringes. That was never my contention, I made that pretty clear with the example of bigoted communities I chose being white supremacists. Not sure how you could misread that, unless you wanted to.
  - missosoup 6y ago
    By choosing white supremacists, you've indicated the exact lack of understanding of what the term bigot means. It's not just a combination of the various *isms and phobias. It's the inability to accept new viewpoints - which is equally prevalent on both sides of the political spectrum. The left is just as unwilling to engage in dialogue or entertain the idea that not all of their views are inherently 'good' as the right. I can't relate at all to white supremacists, but I can tell you that they're more willing to actually discuss and argue their point of view than the 'shout until you get you way' ultra left wing. > Not sure how you could misread that, unless you wanted to Not everyone interprets the same inputs the same way. Especially not in your case when you claim to pick a 'more common' definition but carefully walk around the actual dictionary definition of both Oxford and Webster. Using that as an excuse for a thinly veiled accusation is a pretty good example of bigotry. I disagree with you, therefore you throw a thinly veiled accusation that I'm 'one of those' instead of actually engaging in debate on any level where you're prepared to lose. Why argue on merits when you can accuse the other person of deliberately misreading because of agenda.