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But often these sites start doing the right thing and then restrict it, tkaing a step backward. Before: https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png https://i.imgur.com/sgO

But often these sites start doing the right thing and then restrict it, tkaing a step backward. Before: https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png After: https://i.imgur.com/8j7P1YE.png https://i.imgur.com/8j7P1YE.png The latter is objectively worse. I understand that > 1080p monitors are a small fraction of your user base, but that's still not reason to not test your UI on larger resolutions, for a site as big (and prominently used by devs with large screens) as GitHub. My eye still has to jump back and forth long distances if I want to fork the repo for example.

TulliusCicero 6y ago
Agreed, the UI in the after picture is awful. I really doubt it's intentional there, unfortunate that there's an oversight like that.
rsynnott 6y ago
Do that many people use maximised windows on 16:9 or greater screens? Maybe it’s just because all my early experience was on 4:3, but I’d never maximise a browser window on a modern screen. I’d agree this is bad design, but I’d be somewhat surprised if it’s a big practical problem for most people.
- TheDong 6y ago
  There are many many people who keep a single window maximized at all times and alt-tab between windows. It's the most basic form of window management, and it works pretty well. It's especially helpful if you want to be able to focus on one thing at a time only, and not have multiple different windows with disparate screen noise visible at once. I often operate in that mode, using a tiling window manager to have a single maximized window on my primary monitor, and optionally a tile of auxiliary windows on my secondary monitor.
  - ehsankia 6y ago
    I agree. I will do side by side quite often when I'm programming or doing a specific multi-tasking work, but my "regular" browsing is fullscreen. I don't see why I would browse the web (single focused task) on the left or right half of my monitor, that just seems... silly?
    - frosted-flakes 6y ago
      I maximize the window height, but limit it in width precisely because so many websites aren't designed for wide screens. Windows makes this easy: just double click on the top or bottom edge of the window. It's also sticky, so I can easily drag it to the centre of the screen.
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  The idea that anyone wouldn’t maximize all applications, especially their browser, is utterly bewildering to me.
  - mcbutterbunz 6y ago
    That's my feeling as well. I bought a large monitor with nice resolution and I want to run my applications at full size. Window tiling is nice but its also a distraction for me and I always seem to forget which app has focus.
  - badsectoracula 6y ago
    I do not maximize some of my applications because i want to have several of them visible at any time when i'm working on more than one. I do maximize some other applications, depending on what i'm doing. I do not maximize the browser because i want to have the content i'm working with/looking at/reading in front of me (especially on the reading aspect since reading long lines is tiresome) and maximizing on a 16:9 monitor means that a lot of content will be at the sides. Now combine the above with the fact that i'm using a ~23" 1366x768 monitor, the tendency of pretty much every site out there to use the window width as a means to differentiate between mobile and desktop sites and the stupid trend to use ginormous font sizes everywhere and you get an idea of how much i like browsing many sites out there (at least HN and old Reddit is perfectly fine). Well, i'm thankful that browsers have a zoom option at least, many of the sites out there are only usable at a 70-80% zoom for me. But yeah, last time i had my browser maximized all the time was when i had a 4:3 monitor.
    - michaelmrose 6y ago
      There are better monitors at my local thrift store for 5 dollars. It's like 68ppi the last monitor I had like that had a huge floppy drive and kings quest III. It's time to upgrade.
      - badsectoracula 6y ago
        No there are certainly not better monitors at your thrift store for $5 dollars. This is a brand new monitor i bought some months ago (late 2019) and the cost was much bigger than 5 dollars. In fact it was the most expensive VA monitor at this resolution (i avoid IPS because i actually want to be able to see dark colors and contrast and every single IPS monitor i've used, regardless of resolution, is garbage when it comes to that with the awful backlight glow), it has a ton of inputs at the back, relatively fast response time (for VA), etc. It is one of the best monitors i ever had. The resolution was something i explicitly opted for, partly because at the time i had an APU-based system that i wanted to game on and i didn't want the blurry mess that a higher resolution would have and partly because 1366x768 on a monitor (as opposed to laptop) makes for very sharp icons, fonts (after you disable antialiasing) for everything (as opposed to using a hidpi monitor where some apps look crisp and others look either too tiny or blurred from scaling). Also as a (very high) bonus, it looks great when playing older games that often use 1024x768 as a resolution since i have 1:1 mapping there. Finally 1366x768 is currently by far the most common resolution on PCs (mainly thanks to laptops, but desktops use it too - see mine) according to statcounter and the second most common on gaming PCs according to Steam, so it isn't something you'd only find in obscure old PCs, it is as mainstream as it gets.
- wjdp 6y ago
  I'm in quite a small niche: tiling window managers. When there's only one window open it takes 100% width and height. Every app I use other than some websites handles this extra space well. You can reduce it by making real or fake windows on the left and right. Haven't gotten around to making a macro for that yet. If it's an article reader mode also exists.
- imetatroll 6y ago
  I use xmonad as a window manager and do have one workspace where my browser lives. I find the new layout to be a pretty steep downgrade.
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TulliusCicero 6y ago

Agreed, the UI in the after picture is awful. I really doubt it's intentional there, unfortunate that there's an oversight like that.

rsynnott 6y ago

Do that many people use maximised windows on 16:9 or greater screens? Maybe it’s just because all my early experience was on 4:3, but I’d never maximise a browser window on a modern screen. I’d agree this is bad design, but I’d be somewhat surprised if it’s a big practical problem for most people.

TheDong 6y ago
There are many many people who keep a single window maximized at all times and alt-tab between windows. It's the most basic form of window management, and it works pretty well. It's especially helpful if you want to be able to focus on one thing at a time only, and not have multiple different windows with disparate screen noise visible at once. I often operate in that mode, using a tiling window manager to have a single maximized window on my primary monitor, and optionally a tile of auxiliary windows on my secondary monitor.
- ehsankia 6y ago
  I agree. I will do side by side quite often when I'm programming or doing a specific multi-tasking work, but my "regular" browsing is fullscreen. I don't see why I would browse the web (single focused task) on the left or right half of my monitor, that just seems... silly?
  - frosted-flakes 6y ago
    I maximize the window height, but limit it in width precisely because so many websites aren't designed for wide screens. Windows makes this easy: just double click on the top or bottom edge of the window. It's also sticky, so I can easily drag it to the centre of the screen.
ashtonkem 6y ago
The idea that anyone wouldn’t maximize all applications, especially their browser, is utterly bewildering to me.
- mcbutterbunz 6y ago
  That's my feeling as well. I bought a large monitor with nice resolution and I want to run my applications at full size. Window tiling is nice but its also a distraction for me and I always seem to forget which app has focus.
- badsectoracula 6y ago
  I do not maximize some of my applications because i want to have several of them visible at any time when i'm working on more than one. I do maximize some other applications, depending on what i'm doing. I do not maximize the browser because i want to have the content i'm working with/looking at/reading in front of me (especially on the reading aspect since reading long lines is tiresome) and maximizing on a 16:9 monitor means that a lot of content will be at the sides. Now combine the above with the fact that i'm using a ~23" 1366x768 monitor, the tendency of pretty much every site out there to use the window width as a means to differentiate between mobile and desktop sites and the stupid trend to use ginormous font sizes everywhere and you get an idea of how much i like browsing many sites out there (at least HN and old Reddit is perfectly fine). Well, i'm thankful that browsers have a zoom option at least, many of the sites out there are only usable at a 70-80% zoom for me. But yeah, last time i had my browser maximized all the time was when i had a 4:3 monitor.
  - michaelmrose 6y ago
    There are better monitors at my local thrift store for 5 dollars. It's like 68ppi the last monitor I had like that had a huge floppy drive and kings quest III. It's time to upgrade.
    - badsectoracula 6y ago
      No there are certainly not better monitors at your thrift store for $5 dollars. This is a brand new monitor i bought some months ago (late 2019) and the cost was much bigger than 5 dollars. In fact it was the most expensive VA monitor at this resolution (i avoid IPS because i actually want to be able to see dark colors and contrast and every single IPS monitor i've used, regardless of resolution, is garbage when it comes to that with the awful backlight glow), it has a ton of inputs at the back, relatively fast response time (for VA), etc. It is one of the best monitors i ever had. The resolution was something i explicitly opted for, partly because at the time i had an APU-based system that i wanted to game on and i didn't want the blurry mess that a higher resolution would have and partly because 1366x768 on a monitor (as opposed to laptop) makes for very sharp icons, fonts (after you disable antialiasing) for everything (as opposed to using a hidpi monitor where some apps look crisp and others look either too tiny or blurred from scaling). Also as a (very high) bonus, it looks great when playing older games that often use 1024x768 as a resolution since i have 1:1 mapping there. Finally 1366x768 is currently by far the most common resolution on PCs (mainly thanks to laptops, but desktops use it too - see mine) according to statcounter and the second most common on gaming PCs according to Steam, so it isn't something you'd only find in obscure old PCs, it is as mainstream as it gets.
wjdp 6y ago
I'm in quite a small niche: tiling window managers. When there's only one window open it takes 100% width and height. Every app I use other than some websites handles this extra space well. You can reduce it by making real or fake windows on the left and right. Haven't gotten around to making a macro for that yet. If it's an article reader mode also exists.
imetatroll 6y ago
I use xmonad as a window manager and do have one workspace where my browser lives. I find the new layout to be a pretty steep downgrade.

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