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> One guy getting fired is a drop in the bucket. If you're willing to ruin innocent lives to further your cause, then I cannot comprehend how it makes you mora

> One guy getting fired is a drop in the bucket. If you're willing to ruin innocent lives to further your cause, then I cannot comprehend how it makes you morally superior to _them_ (whoever _they_ might be) Are you keeping the score somewhere? Something like: "Today, we got 11 majority people fired for petty reasons, but it's Ok as it will improve the lives of 18 minority people"

rectang 6y ago
> If you're willing to ruin innocent lives to further your cause, No, I am not "willing to ruin innocent lives". I regard these cases as deplorable but inevitable statistical anomalies being highlighted inappropriately. > Are you keeping the score somewhere? I suppose that in a broad sense, I am. I don't believe that innocent people are being unjustly ruined as racists for no reason en masse. I think there's a handful of these cases. In contrast, consider the ridiculous incarceration rates for Black Americans: 1 in 3 Black men will spend time behind bars in their lifetimes, while the rate for all US men is 1 in 17. That's millions of lives ruined. So I will get worked up for each one of these cases in isolation. But I'm not going to allocate my outrage disproportionately to the tiny minority while ignoring the vast majority.
- kofejnik 6y ago
  > I regard these cases as deplorable but inevitable in other words, acceptable casualties in the war you're waging. nice.
  - rectang 6y ago
    A "war", hmm. No, I don't see it as a "war". It's not a zero-sum conflict. When the bonds of ethnic loyalty are weakened and the bonds of cosmopolitan amity are strengthened, we all win, and our lives are all enriched. As for "acceptable casualties": I certainly would not go along with such injustices as the three anecdotes described in the article if they were playing out before me. Outside of my own limited sphere of influence, I am not cursed with the responsibility of making judgment calls as to what is "acceptable" — yet I can still aspire to weigh the suffering of all parties.

rectang 6y ago

> If you're willing to ruin innocent lives to further your cause, No, I am not "willing to ruin innocent lives". I regard these cases as deplorable but inevitable statistical anomalies being highlighted inappropriately. > Are you keeping the score somewhere? I suppose that in a broad sense, I am. I don't believe that innocent people are being unjustly ruined as racists for no reason en masse. I think there's a handful of these cases. In contrast, consider the ridiculous incarceration rates for Black Americans: 1 in 3 Black men will spend time behind bars in their lifetimes, while the rate for all US men is 1 in 17. That's millions of lives ruined. So I will get worked up for each one of these cases in isolation. But I'm not going to allocate my outrage disproportionately to the tiny minority while ignoring the vast majority.

kofejnik 6y ago
> I regard these cases as deplorable but inevitable in other words, acceptable casualties in the war you're waging. nice.
- rectang 6y ago
  A "war", hmm. No, I don't see it as a "war". It's not a zero-sum conflict. When the bonds of ethnic loyalty are weakened and the bonds of cosmopolitan amity are strengthened, we all win, and our lives are all enriched. As for "acceptable casualties": I certainly would not go along with such injustices as the three anecdotes described in the article if they were playing out before me. Outside of my own limited sphere of influence, I am not cursed with the responsibility of making judgment calls as to what is "acceptable" — yet I can still aspire to weigh the suffering of all parties.