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That sounds difficult, it seems like your feelings are still pretty raw. I’m sorry you went through that. Out of curiosity, do you think there’s a difference b

That sounds difficult, it seems like your feelings are still pretty raw. I’m sorry you went through that. Out of curiosity, do you think there’s a difference between me asking a government to remove something from a web platform vs me asking the platform to remove something? Perhaps my position is I don’t think anyone should appeal to a government for web censorship, but hold platforms socially accountable for the content they host. If they hear my (and the potentially ensuing mob) complaints about content I found objectionable, the platform can either ignore my complaint or acquiesce. What can I do if they ignore me? Start a boycott? That kind of pressure is an economic one which leads to the platform making a business decision. The content creator that feels slighted starts their own competing platform for a different user base. We now have meaningful competition. It’s the kind of libertarian value that I think is just right for the web. It might seem unfair, but it doesn’t feel like mob rule/leftist hypocrisy more than the invisible hand of the information market working against your content.

pnako 6y ago
Is there a difference between you asking a government to remove someone vs you asking the mob to remove someone? This is typical libertarian logic, where you completely disregard outcomes provided they come from the market and not the government. It actually mimics socialist thought; "sure, we don't have a lot of food or stuff in general, but whatever we have was produced using the principles of scientific socialism!" In reality, people care about having food, not being murdered or being allowed to express themselves. Whether it's the outcome of the institutions called "the government" or the ones called "the market", who are joined at the hip anyway, makes very little difference.
zackees 6y ago
> it seems like your feelings are still pretty raw. I’m sorry you went through that. It's a badge of honor to be slandered by the NYT, Business Insider and Vice magazine all on the same day. > do you think there’s a difference between me asking a government to remove something from a web platform vs me asking the platform to remove something? Corporations have zero accountability once they hit monopoly status. Governments can change. For example, FOAI requests.

pnako 6y ago

Is there a difference between you asking a government to remove someone vs you asking the mob to remove someone? This is typical libertarian logic, where you completely disregard outcomes provided they come from the market and not the government. It actually mimics socialist thought; "sure, we don't have a lot of food or stuff in general, but whatever we have was produced using the principles of scientific socialism!" In reality, people care about having food, not being murdered or being allowed to express themselves. Whether it's the outcome of the institutions called "the government" or the ones called "the market", who are joined at the hip anyway, makes very little difference.

zackees 6y ago

> it seems like your feelings are still pretty raw. I’m sorry you went through that. It's a badge of honor to be slandered by the NYT, Business Insider and Vice magazine all on the same day. > do you think there’s a difference between me asking a government to remove something from a web platform vs me asking the platform to remove something? Corporations have zero accountability once they hit monopoly status. Governments can change. For example, FOAI requests.