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Great example - he was punished hard by the media and public. I don’t agree with him but I’ll defend his right to believe what he wants.

scarface74 6y ago
He can believe what he wants, but I also have the legal right not to want a person in power who wants to discriminate against someone because he thinks an invisible being is going to reign hellfire and damnation in the country if you let gay people get married. These are the same type of people who a generation earlier supported laws against interracial marriage.
CyberDildonics 6y ago
The article was about people who were accused of beliefs they didn't hold, so this example is different. Also, if lots of your employees threaten to quit, your company has a big problem. The examples in the article were about individual employees, two of which had employers that said the employees were fired for other reasons. In the example of mozilla, separate from agreeing with the decisions, the actions were known and done for known reasons. No one lied about why they did what they did.
- LyndsySimon 6y ago
  > The article was about people who were accused of beliefs they didn't hold, so this example is different. Is it? I may be misremembering, but my impression was that Eich was pushed out because people interpreted his political donation as being indicative of a larger belief. I don’t recall Eich ever making a statement on the issue. I’m not defending him here, so please don’t get me wrong. I’m only pointing out that there seems to be some level of inferring someone’s “true beliefs” in both cases. There’s a lot more of it in the article, granted, but it leads me to ask: where is the bar?
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    I think he donated his own money to an organization lobbying against gay marriage, so it doesn't seem like a huge leap. In any event, the article was about people who had much more abstract and ambiguous actions interpreted by an internet mob as them having ingrained bigoted beliefs, so I think there is a very wide gap.

scarface74 6y ago

He can believe what he wants, but I also have the legal right not to want a person in power who wants to discriminate against someone because he thinks an invisible being is going to reign hellfire and damnation in the country if you let gay people get married. These are the same type of people who a generation earlier supported laws against interracial marriage.

CyberDildonics 6y ago

The article was about people who were accused of beliefs they didn't hold, so this example is different. Also, if lots of your employees threaten to quit, your company has a big problem. The examples in the article were about individual employees, two of which had employers that said the employees were fired for other reasons. In the example of mozilla, separate from agreeing with the decisions, the actions were known and done for known reasons. No one lied about why they did what they did.

LyndsySimon 6y ago
> The article was about people who were accused of beliefs they didn't hold, so this example is different. Is it? I may be misremembering, but my impression was that Eich was pushed out because people interpreted his political donation as being indicative of a larger belief. I don’t recall Eich ever making a statement on the issue. I’m not defending him here, so please don’t get me wrong. I’m only pointing out that there seems to be some level of inferring someone’s “true beliefs” in both cases. There’s a lot more of it in the article, granted, but it leads me to ask: where is the bar?
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  I think he donated his own money to an organization lobbying against gay marriage, so it doesn't seem like a huge leap. In any event, the article was about people who had much more abstract and ambiguous actions interpreted by an internet mob as them having ingrained bigoted beliefs, so I think there is a very wide gap.