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No-one is forcing entry to take guns! If the time comes: 1. You'll be asked to hand in guns 2. You can choose not to. You can say it's in the trash. You thr

by tonyhb 6y ago

No-one is forcing entry to take guns! If the time comes: 1. You'll be asked to hand in guns 2. You can choose not to. You can say it's in the trash. You threw it away. Whatever. The US gov't will need a warrant to come in and search property. All for a gun that you might own? But that you now know is an "extra" crime to use? That's not going to happen. Manpower, cost, trouble, the chance of escalation - it's not worth it. So yes, keep it locked away if you so choose. I get your point, but it's an assumption to say that the police are going to _force entry and remove everyone's guns_. That will not ever happen. I just want to disclaim that I genuinely don't care about guns whether people keep them or not. After being in the UK with acid attacks, keep em. No horse in this race. Just do not understand why people are so determined to say that you'll have them forcefully stolen from you, when just a tiny bit of thinking - and precedent! - shows you that it's not going to happen.

refurb 6y ago
But the US federal gov't already forcefully takes guns away from people when they are breaking the law.[1] If that law is changed to include guns that are now legal, why would you think the ATF won't seize those guns too? Not long ago the ATF determined that certain airsoft guns were "machine guns". They pretty quickly asked the seller for a list of customers, followed up with each and seized them. [1]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/exclusive-feds-issue-4-000-orders-seize-guns-people-who-failed-background-checks/901017001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/excl...
harryh 6y ago
Drugs are currently (mostly) illegal in the US. If the police have good reason to believe that you have illegal drugs in your house they can and will force entry and take the drugs. And arrest you. Sometimes while doing this they end up killing people. Happens all the time. Why would you expect laws making guns illegal would be any different than the laws we already have making drugs illegal?
tekknik 6y ago
I choose option 3, try and take it. It's in direct violation of the second amendment. They do not have the power and if they attempt to this will most definitely turn ugly as there are millions in the US that will not stand for this. You need to understand that one of two reasons we have the second amendment right is protect us from a government that could turn totalitarian or not "for the people". So when a politician says they want to take guns, this is step one of totalitarian regime stepping in and this one act alone has the power to start another civil war.

by tonyhb 6y ago

refurb 6y ago

But the US federal gov't already forcefully takes guns away from people when they are breaking the law.[1] If that law is changed to include guns that are now legal, why would you think the ATF won't seize those guns too? Not long ago the ATF determined that certain airsoft guns were "machine guns". They pretty quickly asked the seller for a list of customers, followed up with each and seized them. [1]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/exclusive-feds-issue-4-000-orders-seize-guns-people-who-failed-background-checks/901017001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/excl...

harryh 6y ago

Drugs are currently (mostly) illegal in the US. If the police have good reason to believe that you have illegal drugs in your house they can and will force entry and take the drugs. And arrest you. Sometimes while doing this they end up killing people. Happens all the time. Why would you expect laws making guns illegal would be any different than the laws we already have making drugs illegal?

tekknik 6y ago

I choose option 3, try and take it. It's in direct violation of the second amendment. They do not have the power and if they attempt to this will most definitely turn ugly as there are millions in the US that will not stand for this. You need to understand that one of two reasons we have the second amendment right is protect us from a government that could turn totalitarian or not "for the people". So when a politician says they want to take guns, this is step one of totalitarian regime stepping in and this one act alone has the power to start another civil war.