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> Throwing police at the problem of gang violence hasn't solved it. It hasn't made the neighborhoods safer. That is not true. We have solid data from New York
by momokoko 6y ago
> Throwing police at the problem of gang violence hasn't solved it. It hasn't made the neighborhoods safer.
That is not true. We have solid data from New York during the Giuliani era and more recently Camden, NJ. Whether or not we agree with how they accomplished that is another matter.
For example in New York a massive increase in arrests for nonviolent crime and much more proactively policing in order to check for warrants etc.
The truth is that nothing works in isolation. In New York we also saw a migration of younger professionals back into the city which reduced crime by forcing out poorer residents via gentrification.
The reality is that in any nation with a high prevalence of gun ownership combined with a large portion of the population without enough to provide for themselves and often, due to criminal records, no other choice but to commit crimes to provide for themselves.
- stx 6y agoSome of the reduction on crime may have come at the cost of racially biased stop and frisk. This data shows 9 out of 10 people stopped were innocent. It also heavily showed that black and latino people were stopped much more frequently. https://www.nyclu.org/en/Stop-and-Frisk-data https://www.nyclu.org/en/Stop-and-Frisk-data I am glad that stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional. https://civilrights.org/edfund/resource/nypds-infamous-stop-and-frisk-policy-found-unconstitutional/ https://civilrights.org/edfund/resource/nypds-infamous-stop-...
- wang_li 6y agoHow stop and frisk was used in the Guiliani era was a lot different than the Bloomberg era. The practice went to court early on and was found constitutional. During Bloomberg’s stint it was expanded dramatically and that’s when it went back to court and was declared unlawful.
- HenryBemis 6y agoPeople keep referring to the NY Giuliani era, but I think it's time to read Freakonomics and discover the true reason of the crime decreasing and it was definitely NOT Guiiliani's master-skills in public administration. Whatever grace he ever had, he lost it when he showed the world his true colours recently.