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> These things are evenly distributed across society This is an unproven assertion. You should provide evidence of it, because on its face it is a completely l

> These things are evenly distributed across society This is an unproven assertion. You should provide evidence of it, because on its face it is a completely ludicrous claim. Rates of illicit drug activity, violent crime, etc are _not_ evenly distributed in society. Not even close. > Exhibit B) Silicon Valley openly brags about microdosing acid to perform at work at their half million $ jobs. Overpolicing would ensnare them if overpolicing existed in that demographic and then they would be ineligible for jobs the rest of their life. If you cant be subsidized by your family then you have actual crime to consider. Guess where you will live too. Quite simply, the reason people that microdose are not getting thrown in jail is because they're not doing the other things that would lead to them getting discovered, i.e. engaging in crime or driving a car with significant (meaning, more than a person can safely swallow to avoid arrest) quantities of lsd. --- Just incase you try to pin a belief-set on me, I oppose the war on drugs, no-knock raids, and even speeding tickets completely and would entirely abolish them if I were the BFDL.

mnm1 6y ago
Actually, black people use drugs at slightly lower rates than whites. This is common knowledge or should be. Here's 3 of the top 6 google links for "illicit drug use by race": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2377408/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2377408/ https://www.hamiltonproject.org/charts/rates_of_drug_use_and_sales_by_race_rates_of_drug_related_criminal_justice https://www.hamiltonproject.org/charts/rates_of_drug_use_and... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235217301277 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004723521...
- alfalfasprout 6y ago
  We're talking about violent crime... drug prosecutions and other nonviolent crime are notorious for selective enforcement. A bullet fired, a body, etc. are much harder to hide.
  - vmception 6y ago
    and my immediate reply to you was that its not about violent crime It doesn't exist in isolation There is no “culture that commits violent crime” There is a marginalized population from overpolicing for nonviolent crimes It cascades It can be fixed by acknowledging this component
  - mnm1 6y ago
    No. We're definitely not. From the parent post: > It has to do with nonviolent infractions that marginalize people to begin with. Being actually caught with illicit substances , or caught for the unpaid ticket. > These things are evenly distributed across society, but when overly targeting minorities it further marginalizes them.
vmception 6y ago
Yes it doesnt match your worldview, consider seeing if you can corroborate it. I know strange concept for you to find a source instead of hoping to pick apart the person that posted, but you might be surprised But regarding the rebuttal to microdosing users, if they were getting randomly frisked and randomly tested and randomly stopped for “broken” taillights, because the algorithm said so, they would be getting caught and reinforcing the algorithm and human biases This is what is happening disproportionately to some demographics that dont have inherently different behavior from other demographics
dralley 6y ago
>Quite simply, the reason people that microdose are not getting thrown in jail is because they're not doing the other things that would lead to them getting discovered, i.e. engaging in crime or driving a car with significant (meaning, more than a person can safely swallow to avoid arrest) quantities of lsd. Counterargument, it's well documented and studied that policies like "stop and frisk" and to some degree traffic enforcement disproportionately target minorities. Most of the people in SV "microdosing on LSD" are not.

mnm1 6y ago

Actually, black people use drugs at slightly lower rates than whites. This is common knowledge or should be. Here's 3 of the top 6 google links for "illicit drug use by race": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2377408/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2377408/ https://www.hamiltonproject.org/charts/rates_of_drug_use_and_sales_by_race_rates_of_drug_related_criminal_justice https://www.hamiltonproject.org/charts/rates_of_drug_use_and... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235217301277 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004723521...

alfalfasprout 6y ago
We're talking about violent crime... drug prosecutions and other nonviolent crime are notorious for selective enforcement. A bullet fired, a body, etc. are much harder to hide.
- vmception 6y ago
  and my immediate reply to you was that its not about violent crime It doesn't exist in isolation There is no “culture that commits violent crime” There is a marginalized population from overpolicing for nonviolent crimes It cascades It can be fixed by acknowledging this component
- mnm1 6y ago
  No. We're definitely not. From the parent post: > It has to do with nonviolent infractions that marginalize people to begin with. Being actually caught with illicit substances , or caught for the unpaid ticket. > These things are evenly distributed across society, but when overly targeting minorities it further marginalizes them.

vmception 6y ago

Yes it doesnt match your worldview, consider seeing if you can corroborate it. I know strange concept for you to find a source instead of hoping to pick apart the person that posted, but you might be surprised But regarding the rebuttal to microdosing users, if they were getting randomly frisked and randomly tested and randomly stopped for “broken” taillights, because the algorithm said so, they would be getting caught and reinforcing the algorithm and human biases This is what is happening disproportionately to some demographics that dont have inherently different behavior from other demographics

dralley 6y ago

>Quite simply, the reason people that microdose are not getting thrown in jail is because they're not doing the other things that would lead to them getting discovered, i.e. engaging in crime or driving a car with significant (meaning, more than a person can safely swallow to avoid arrest) quantities of lsd. Counterargument, it's well documented and studied that policies like "stop and frisk" and to some degree traffic enforcement disproportionately target minorities. Most of the people in SV "microdosing on LSD" are not.